@Galaroc Thanks for the links, I will have a read. Currently I've stopped taking T3 and am going to try and improve my diet before I try again.
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RE: What to expect with T3?
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RE: What to expect with T3?
Interestingly I haven't taken any today and my temperature is currently 36.7 C
@Galaroc not stressed out at all but my diet isn't great. Can you tell me more about circulating FFAs? This is caused by eating a lot of PUFAs? How do they negate T3?
@BroJonas Cholesterol was slightly high last I checked, vitamin D low. What exactly does aspirin do and what do you guys mean when you talk about using it, like how much aspirin should I be taking and what effect is it meant to have? I've been taking one or two 100mg tablets a day recently.
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What to expect with T3?
I've been taking T3 for two weeks now, around half a Cynomel a day (spaced out over multiple doses every couple of hours). My temperatures haven't come up and I still get weird sensations in my chest. Is it safe to say it isn't working for me and I need to stop and figure out what else is wrong? Or should I stick with it a little longer? Should I increase the dose?
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RE: T3 causing weird feeling in chest at night
@cs3000 I've only tried doses between 1mcg - 4mcg. I'd be too scared to try higher doses because of the heart symptoms. I think I need to stop taking ADHD meds before I experiment anymore.
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RE: T3 causing weird feeling in chest at night
@Mulloch94 I haven't tried pregnenolone. I'm not sure I ever really had ADHD or whether I believe in it anymore. I'm hoping thyroid will solve what I thought was ADHD. I'm already on less than 5mg a day but I need to rip off the bandaid soon and stop completely. Thanks for your advice.
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RE: T3 causing weird feeling in chest at night
I should've said in the OP, I'm prescribed dexamphetamine for ADHD. I've been tapering down for a while but every time I stop completely I'm too dopey and tired to focus at work. But I'm down to <5mg a day now. The chest feeling I've been getting from thyroid is similar to a feeling I get when I stop ADHD meds completely, which also happens at night. I would also assume my cortisol levels must be relatively high if I'm taking speed everyday.
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RE: T3 causing weird feeling in chest at night
@Mulloch94 said in T3 causing weird feeling in chest at night:
Also the cortisol thing Peat was talking about was after meals, not after thyroid supplementation.
Would thyroid supplementation not have a similar effect? If not then can you speculate on what else might cause either/both of my symptoms?
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RE: T3 causing weird feeling in chest at night
@Mulloch94 I've been taking ~300mg magnesium every night before bed for years, and occasionally ~100-300mg during the day as well, so I would be surprised if not enough magnesium is the problem.
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RE: T3 causing weird feeling in chest at night
@Master How long have you been taking it? And do you get it at night as well or soon after taking it?
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T3 causing weird feeling in chest at night
I'm trying to troubleshoot why I'm reacting to T3 the way I am. It doesn't raise my temperature and actually seems to lower it sometimes. And on days that I've taken it later that night I get an uncomfortable feeling in my chest. I don't get the feeling immediately after taking it, only at night around the same time.
I recall reading something Peat said about if someone's been running on cortisol then thyroid supplementation will reveal their true metabolic state and could therefore lower their temperature. I'm wondering if this could explain my experience.
Cortisol levels decrease at night, if I've also lowered my cortisol levels by taking T3 could this lead to lower blood pressure than normal and hence the feeling in my chest?
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RE: Help me choose supplements
@Mulloch94 "Maybe 10,000 IU short term to correct a deficiency" short term meaning how long roughly?
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RE: Help me choose supplements
@forty thanks for giving me a list with the best brands, exactly what I was hoping for but didn't have the brain energy to figure out myself.
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Help me choose supplements
Hi all. I struggle with what you guys would call learned helplessness, what my doctor calls ADHD.
I've been going down the Ray Peat rabbit hole lately. I started measuring my temperature regularly and it's quite low (~35.9 C upon waking, ~36.2 mid-morning, never seen it go above 36.7).
I tried taking T3 (IdeaLabs Tyronene) and unfortunately it didn't raise my temperature at all and a few times it seemed to lower it, and it also gave me heart palpitations. I started with 1mcg which didn't seem to do anything, then 4mcg which gave me heart palpitations. After I stopped taking it I still had occasional heart palpitations for days, especially when I took my nightly magnesium.
I'm guessing there's another deficiency I need to address before I can try again. My most recent blood test in August did show a vitamin D deficiency. (It also showed high LDL cholesterol and "mild hepatocellular damage".)
I need you guys' help figuring out what to do next. The amount of information is overwhelming and I'm currently in a phase where my brain fog and fatigue are worse than normal and I don't have the energy to read through lots of stuff.
I want to try and fix whatever else is wrong so I can try thyroid again, what are the most important things to try/lowest hanging fruit?
Obviously I need to start with vitamin D since I know for sure that it's low. I've been taking a 1000 IU supplement but I saw someone in a thread on the old forum tell someone to take 10 000 IU, is this a good idea?
Apart from vitamin D :
- Should I be taking vitamin A at all?
- Should I be taking vitamin E? If so, it needs to be "mixed tocopherols", is that right? Anything else I need to know?
- Should I be taking vitamin K?
- Anything else I should get? Zinc? Selenium?
I think magnesium is another important one but I've been taking that every night for years to help me sleep.
Another thing to mention is I tried cyproheptadine on the weekend. I feel less stressed today but more tired.
Thanks in advance.
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RE: Unpleasant experience on thyroid
thanks for sharing. I've also been struggling with fatigue for years. personally, T3 has been giving me heart palpitations and low blood pressure at night. maybe I also have been taking too low a dose, but the heart symptoms have scared me too much so I'm going to just stop.
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RE: What's your body temperature?
@GreekDemiGod what do you recommend? 'cause tyronene doesn't seem to do much. also what's your temperature?
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RE: What's your body temperature?
@FTMarinetti OK what about the other things I said, what's your temperature?
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What's your body temperature?
ITT we post our temperature. Mine is currently 36.4 C/97.5 F, it's 4:30 in the afternoon.
"Oral or armpit temperature in the morning, before getting out of bed, should be around 98° F [36.6º C], and it should rise to 98.6° F [37.1º C] by mid-morning."
Does anyone's temperature actually come close to this? The highest I've measured so far is 36.7 C. My morning temperature is usually something like 35.8 C.
I just started taking Tyronene and it barely makes a difference.
I also find it interesting that more recent studies on average body temperature found it to be lower than 98.6 F/37.1 C.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/time-to-redefine-normal-body-temperature-2020031319173
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RE: How to take Tyronene?
What does it mean if ~4mcg lowers my temperature
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RE: How to take Tyronene?
I don't think the SFA esters like water. The mixture will probably separate into a water/alcohol at the bottom and SFA ester at the top of the container, and most of the T3 will probably be in the SFA fraction. I would use strong alcohol for dilution if possible, 70% or higher is probably needed to avoid separation.