Vitamin E weight loss
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I've been using haidut's TocoVit for about 8 months and have gradually noticed it's causing fat loss. This has been a mostly happy thing as I've been stuck in a skinny fat-sort of build for a couple of years, but I'm thinking it might not be the best thing to have going on for too long.
The per day average has been < 400 IU, maybe 250-300 IU (8-10 drops), topically.
The weight loss seems to still be happening, I can gradually see more of my ribs, veins on my legs, etc. Has anyone else had this happen from vit E or TocoVit specifically? Reasons to worry?I'm going to cut back and see what happens, since it hasn't really been doing anything for my main symptoms, but am curious if anyone wants to chime in on this.
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@chosroes probably no reason to worry! Do you feel good, energetic, mentally clear? Nothing affected negatively?
Peat advised 150 IU during weight loss to prevent metabolic/mitochondrial damage if memory serves.
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I take around ~100 IU of Tocovit daily (3 drops) in the afternoon about 6 hours separated from my Kuinone drops. I have NOT noticed any weight loss.
I'm obviously taking a different amount than you. I take just a little to help deal with any lipid peroxidation as my body liberates its stored PUFA.
I have been following this regimen for about 8 months as well, perhaps a bit longer.
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@vocedilegno Nothing negative in particular to point to - I'm dealing with some long-term CFS-like problems and was mostly mulling over whether things seem to be getting better or worse since using vit E. I haven't noticed too much in terms of mental energy, but physical energy actually has improved, stamina to just move around normally and not become drained from normal activity. There are some other things too, and zooming out, the effects have been either neutral or positive.
So maybe I'll just lower the dose a bit and relax.
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@cremes Good to know, I've felt fairly certain attributing the weight loss to vit E since it's the only thing I've been using with any regularity, but who knows. Have you noticed anything particular from using it?
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@chosroes glad to hear it’s been helping!
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@chosroes I feel nothing in particular but as a heart attack survivor and a fat guy who needs to get rid of a bunch of stored PUFA it seems like a smart supplement to use. It's hard to source vitamin E in whole foods since most of the whole foods richest in it are heavy in PUFA.
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@chosroes when do you take it? Any particular part of the body for application?
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@fruitfly Either twice or three times daily, usually around breakfast and dinner, applied on navel and chest.
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@cremes Have you read "The Heart and Vitamin E" by Doctor Evan Shute? It's a short book, and it's well worth it. If there's one thing above all else that I would recommend to heart attack survivors it's vitamin E. I've got my mom on it. Very important for not only recovery but for preventing a recurrence.
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Not sure what physiological mechanism would be behind vitamin E causing weight loss. Perhaps an estrogen reduction, or increasing insulin sensitivity. It may just be coincidence, and perhaps you're not eating as many calories as you use to. If you're not tracking your food this could very well be the case, especially if you're one of those people that's prone to "forgetting to eat."
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@Mulloch94 My guess from a relatively uneducated person in the field is how vitamin E helps with PUFA depletion, and some fat stores become more accessible thanks to it. With this is coupled, for vit E deficient people -which I would venture is most of us are because it mostly comes from nuts in its natural form- an increase in metabolism and thus calorie expenditure.
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@Gull Maybe. That would be due to vitamin E's anti-lipolytic actions. But I would say this probably goes true for pretty much all fats (except MCTs) not just PUFAs.That shift to fat oxidation will lower CO2, thyroid, and NAD+ which will lower metabolic rate. The only unique feature to PUFA is it's also causing electron leakage in the transport chain which causes massive oxidative stress, and is likely where the increase in cancer potential comes from.