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Reversal of hair loss in Mice with “sugar gel”

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    OliverCloasov
    last edited by OliverCloasov Jul 29, 2024, 3:29 PM Jul 29, 2024, 3:28 PM

    Cheaper here https://www.caymanchem.com/product/29072/2-deoxy-d-ribose

    Interesting snippet from their description:
    "Topical administration of 2-deoxy-D-ribose increases blood vessel formation and accelerates wound healing in a rat full-thickness cutaneous wound model."

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      AinmBeo @OliverCloasov
      last edited by Jul 29, 2024, 3:59 PM

      @OliverCloasov Yes, but they won't let you order unless you are a business or lab.

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        OliverCloasov @AinmBeo
        last edited by Jul 29, 2024, 6:11 PM

        @AinmBeo Ah you're right, unfortunate

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          LetTheRedeemed @Hearthfire
          last edited by Jul 29, 2024, 6:44 PM

          @Hearthfire yeah d-ribose is different. I know, I forget what context he said that about, too - like topical or just higher consumption.

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            LetTheRedeemed @OliverCloasov
            last edited by LetTheRedeemed Jul 29, 2024, 6:46 PM Jul 29, 2024, 6:46 PM

            @OliverCloasov @AinmBeo @Hearthfire
            I'm open to a group buy if anyone of us can find a supplier to private individuals.

            or, what if we all beseeched Georgi to make an experimental cosmetic in a one off batch and we be his guinea pigs? 😄

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              A Former User @OliverCloasov
              last edited by Jul 29, 2024, 8:20 PM

              @OliverCloasov it increases NO so according to danny roddy it is le bad

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                OliverCloasov @LetTheRedeemed
                last edited by Jul 29, 2024, 11:11 PM

                @LetTheRedeemed I'm open to it

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                  OliverCloasov @A Former User
                  last edited by Jul 29, 2024, 11:12 PM

                  @sneedful Interesting, did he elaborate on the mechanism and the degree?

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                    zorba990 @LetTheRedeemed
                    last edited by Jul 30, 2024, 12:45 AM

                    @LetTheRedeemed Wonder what would happen if I bubble hydrogen through ribose infused water?

                    Found this on Amazon : https://www.amazon.com/RPI-2-Deoxy-D-Ribose-500-Grams/dp/B01N0X8O06

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                      LetTheRedeemed @A Former User
                      last edited by Jul 30, 2024, 1:05 AM

                      @sneedful dangit. in that case it could be working on hair growth thru the estrogen function: increase water retention, ie bloodflow

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                        LetTheRedeemed
                        last edited by Jul 30, 2024, 1:07 AM

                        Anybody recall Peat's quote on sugar helping hair growth? was he talking topical? I wonder what topical glucose + ATP + Progest E might do.

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                          bot-mod
                          last edited by Jul 30, 2024, 10:34 AM

                          This is so simple I could believe in it.

                          Thanks for sharing it.

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                            Hearthfire @LetTheRedeemed
                            last edited by Jul 30, 2024, 5:22 PM

                            @LetTheRedeemed

                            I found this thread talking about it, from a podcast/conversation with Ray Peat and Danny Roddy titled
                            "Lost Conversations with Ray Peat #1: The Purpose of Hair, Luciferianism, and Obama as a CIA Creation​

                            https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/did-ray-peat-just-recommended-topical-honey-for-hair.50151/

                            Looks like that episode has been nuked off the internet by the censors. Probably for that title and the discussion content.

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                              LetTheRedeemed @Hearthfire
                              last edited by Jul 30, 2024, 5:39 PM

                              @Hearthfire brooo you came thru king.

                              I'm thinking a topical spray of glucose + a pro-energy substance like t3/niacinamide/aspirin!

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                                LetTheRedeemed @bot-mod
                                last edited by Jul 30, 2024, 5:39 PM

                                @ThinPicking right? Now I'm even more excited to try Ray's suggestion of topical glucose.

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                                  LetTheRedeemed
                                  last edited by Jul 30, 2024, 5:49 PM

                                  @Mauritio
                                  You said this in the old rpf thread above:

                                  Interesting . Add a bit of T3 and caffeine to the mix and and you're good to go.
                                  I already apply t3 dissolved in gin, so I might add plain table sugar and see if I notice an improvement.
                                  With the t3 I notice an almost immediate improvement in hair quality and texture . Similar to the difference of a bad vs. a good hair day.

                                  Did you notice anything? I'm wondering if you need to go pure glucose, not table sugar (50/50 fructose/glucose)

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                                    Mauritio @LetTheRedeemed
                                    last edited by Jul 30, 2024, 6:33 PM

                                    @LetTheRedeemed said in Reversal of hair loss in Mice with “sugar gel”:

                                    @Mauritio
                                    You said this in the old rpf thread above:

                                    Interesting . Add a bit of T3 and caffeine to the mix and and you're good to go.
                                    I already apply t3 dissolved in gin, so I might add plain table sugar and see if I notice an improvement.
                                    With the t3 I notice an almost immediate improvement in hair quality and texture . Similar to the difference of a bad vs. a good hair day.

                                    Did you notice anything? I'm wondering if you need to go pure glucose, not table sugar (50/50 fructose/glucose)

                                    It definitely helps . But I switched to using Apple juice because, it has sugar as well and because of the polyphenol content. Actually I dissolved a full capsule of swansons apple polyphenols in a bit of juice and applied it to my scalp . It really made a difference , but it was such a mess to apply that I stopped.

                                    Dare to think.

                                    My X:
                                    x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                      LetTheRedeemed @Mauritio
                                      last edited by Jul 30, 2024, 7:56 PM

                                      @Mauritio gotcha. Thanks for sharing

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                                        wester130 @LetTheRedeemed
                                        last edited by Jul 30, 2024, 8:52 PM

                                        @LetTheRedeemed

                                        a month ago someone mentioned topical ribose completely unconnected to this study though

                                        https://old.reddit.com/r/raypeat/comments/1dlavfd/baldness_is_insulin_resistance_metformin_is/

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                                          LetTheRedeemed @wester130
                                          last edited by Jul 30, 2024, 10:05 PM

                                          @wester130 nice, thanks for sharing

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