Has anyone felt worse after eating seed oils?
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@BioEclectic said in Has anyone felt worse after eating seed oils?:
Was at a relative's home and had their otherwise excellent homemade sausage for dinner, just some and not too much. 20-30 minutes later my guts got very tight, almost a stomach ache. It stayed that way for hours. I had found out later that evening that it was fried in corn oil.
Yes - this 100%. The chic-fil-a disaster for me was like a gut-pinching feeling. Didn't want to move or walk, felt energy declining, body temperature probably lowered, and got cold.
I think 100% the key thing is that over time we get accustomed to these chemicals, so we don't feel the "shock" that it is actually causing... maybe Peat said this but I know it's true now. We have a tolerance to this really ugly stuff, and rarely feel "health." And then of course the old weight loss motto of "eat less move more" and also the Super Size Me superficially made people aware of "processed food." I think diet sodas or energy drinks are filling the void of energy created by pufa. And if the Randall Cycle is nuked, then regular pop is going to convert to fat and contribute to the problem though offering temporary relief from the pufa symptoms.
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@VehmicJuryman said in Has anyone felt worse after eating seed oils?:
Foods deep fried in PUFA oils are without a doubt the worst thing in the modern diet and should be avoided 100%. This really shouldn't be controversial on a Ray Peat forum. Peat always recommended getting as close to completely eliminating PUFA as possible.
I think when one reduces pufa, pufa cravings also reduce. The less fried you eat, the less you want it. I imagine it's positive feedback with good food too - that you start craving things you habitually eat.
This is one perhaps "paradox" of Peatism, and that is that I crave honey and cheese and fruit a lot more now. At the same time, I accept these are far better than General Tso's Chicken or other abominable delicacies. I suppose it's that we want to make cravings work for us instead of the other way around. The other way around is now evident in every facet of the modern world/economy.
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Get duck fat or tallow and bake the potatoes in the oven.
Yeah it's mufa or pufa, but it's a lot better than deep frying or fast food. Tastes incredible, especially tallow. -
@Mulloch94 said in Has anyone felt worse after eating seed oils?:
Pizza can be difficult, finding a local pizzeria that makes their dough fresh would be the best option.
I make homemade dough and pizza and the biggest problem is not eating all of it, and not eating it with Coke...straight into a coma if I mix the two.
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Yes. I couldn't sleep lol night
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The saliva on my throat becomes thicker and I start coughing every time I eat lots of pufa. Also it doen't sit well in my stomach.
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I had this experience twice in my life, about ten years ago. I was at a kind of barbecue at a sports club and they didn't have normal barbecues with charcoal, but these stupid things where you pour oil on and fry the meat in it. I noticed they use sunflower oil and lots of it. Ate a steak anyway because I didn't want to be a dick. Don't remember if I also ate potato salad, because they are usually made with sunflower oil as well.
On both occasions I got sick the next day.
So I guess people who usually avoid seed oils are more susceptible when they get a load. After all, other people use seed oils every day and aren't sick every single day. It may be a shock for the system if you aren't used to it.
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I notice an intense rise in estrogen within hours of consuming a seed-oil rich meal. Recently (this is a little TMI) I was on my period, which is usually light and painless. I had a big chicken kebab wrap, I could see it was dripping with pufas. That night I woke up to hot flushes, cramps and I bled through everything. This lasted for days after. So not worth it.