Rational Criticism
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Doesn’t look like you are asking a question
Unless I missed itBut to add to the conversation
I will give my perspectivePeat wasn't a dietician
He recommended no diet
He was a biologist of course
Looking for ways to bring health to the individual so they didn't have to rely on the MIC and be stuck in dis-easeThe old forum and other health professionals have interpreted some of his observations, recommendations etc as dietary advice
And have skewed his intent“I think people shouldn’t eat things that damage them and should eat things that taste good and provide essential nutrients while making them feel good and function well. Is that a diet?”
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@Peatful said in Rational Criticism:
Doesn’t look like you are asking a question
Unless I missed itThe question is rational criticism - informed criticism of Peat's ideas. Where was he right, where is he wrong?
He wasn't a dietician, but I would say the vast majority of people found Peat because of his ideas on food/nutrients because of the health problems so many people are suffering from. -
Otherwise I appreciate your response, because yes, it seems like so many things are being misconstrued. But I also think so much of the base of people reading about Peat are pushing supplements and invasive techniques to change health, which is silly.
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@Corngold said in Rational Criticism:
I've been trying to find "rational criticism" of Peat's dietary thinking. I say "rational" because most opinions I read are either totally dismissive and mocking of Peat, or, totally uncritical and accepting of everything he said.
Hi,
There is no Peat diet as already said, even if some people have tried to do as if, and have even written a book. Not Peaty.
If you want to debate one point, in an article written by RP, you're welcome.
raypeat2.com = & Articles.
I suggest to begin by- Hormones, energy, aging and endogenous carbon dioxide.
- When energy fails: Edema, hypertension, heart failure, sarcopenia, cramps, etc.
Steroids. Thyroid. - Glycemia, starch, and sugar in context.
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/glycemia.shtml
Advise: Don't try to generalize if you've got a problem, especially for digestion or mood ((brain). Correction has to take place when energy fails. Adapt yourself to your ground (sensibilities and needs) but don't go on the same way when your body tells you sth is getting wrong. Learn to listen to your metabolism...
PS: One or two questions by post, and wait for the answer before putting another one
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@Corngold said in Rational Criticism:
@Peatful said in Rational Criticism:
Doesn’t look like you are asking a question
Unless I missed itThe question is rational criticism - informed criticism of Peat's ideas. Where was he right, where is he wrong?
He wasn't a dietician, but I would say the vast majority of people found Peat because of his ideas on food/nutrients because of the health problems so many people are suffering from.I found his website first
Raypeat dot com
Grateful
I was looking for hormonal help and found these articles that took time to even begin to understandUnlearning the medical dogma
If I had found the old forum first
I would have been confused at bestYes
Silly with all the supplement pushing…At work
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This is a hit job on Ray Peat.
I took the pains of reading through it. This is a very skewed interpretation of Ray Peat
At best, author picks up wrong ideas from the most clueless members of RPF and then claims these ideas are Ray's.
I will rebut later by the many screenshots of different sections of that very tiresomely long article.
Too many screenshots so I'll just do it screenshot by screenshot.
That piece has no iota of rationality in its criticism, and does a poor job of being accurate.
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I'm posting screenshots of each statement in the article which are patently false. But I will invite members to explain why each of them is false.
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@yerrag said in Rational Criticism:
I'm posting screenshots of each statement in the article which are patently false. But I will invite members to explain why each of them is false.
Im all in if you are
One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.
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I would appreciate it. I see Georgi is going on other shows which is really neat. The science is often over my head
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@Corngold said in Rational Criticism:
I've been trying to find "rational criticism" of Peat's dietary thinking.
Peats approach is to universally support and strengthen metabolic health, notably by protecting mitochondria. This is fully outlined in the link below.
https://www.functionalps.com/blog/2012/11/24/protect-the-mitochondria/
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I find it hard to post images. It's easier at RPF. Can someone show me how to use the markup language below? @brad
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@yerrag said in Rational Criticism:
I find it hard to post images. It's easier at RPF. Can someone show me how to use the markup language below? @brad
@ThinPicking
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This is the best I could do:
Images are in Google Photos.
I could not do a copy and paste either as it ends up as gibberish.
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I'm consulting the AIs, because it is a pretty daunting task to try and learn these in-depth biological processes. It's always fun because AIs are generally 50/50, so it makes "learning" sort of more rapid.
Ex: "Are most people calcium deficient?"
Answwer: "Based on the available research, calcium deficiency appears to be a widespread global issue, though not necessarily affecting "most" people: ..."
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/was-ray-peat-right-about-seed-07KBpUdYSUOErBAbFrXv0Q
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I don't think I was able to join Ray Peat Forum or else I would have. Did they create a new one?
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afaik, this forum is the new one. the former RPF is now the LTF (low toxin forum).
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@Corngold said in Rational Criticism:
I'm consulting the AIs, because it is a pretty daunting task to try and learn these in-depth .biological processes. It's always fun because AIs are generally 50/50, so it makes "learning" sort of more rapid.
Ex: "Are most people calcium deficient?"
Answwer: "Based on the available research, calcium deficiency appears to be a widespread global issue, though not necessarily affecting "most" people: ..."
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/was-ray-peat-right-about-seed-07KBpUdYSUOErBAbFrXv0Q
It is daunting to learn Ray Peat. AI may be helpful, but its accuracy is dependent on what it is fed into it. It doesn't mean its answers are going to be wrong. But neither can you count on it to be rellable.
If it were that simple, you need not go to K12 at all, as AI will fill you in. But I doubt you will have the confidence to figure out many answers yourself, as the quality of your answer will depend highly on the process of determining your answers yourself.
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Here goes all the statements in the article I consider to be false. Do you agree or not? Pls explain your position.
Pls. place comments under each boxed statement in order to keep comments from getting confused with comments from another boxed statement.
