is 0.768 ppm lead for ceylon cinnamon too high?
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0.768 ppm is 0.768mcg/g which is high because 2mcg is max for children set by fda apparently and if fda says <2mcg is "safe" I bet it's way lower threshold
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@LucH Good information. Thank you.
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@sneedful said in is 0.768 ppm lead for ceylon cinnamon too high?:
they powder it themselves in USA and i doubt they are using a machine with lead so it is probably naturally occuring lead from Sri Lanka
This is a good question and timely for me. I've been attempting to get spices and herbs with as little contamination as possible, and I'm finding that this is not easy to do, especially for Ceylon cinnamon. If what I'm finding is correct, Ceylon, of all cinnamon, is currently not even available without contamination:
https://www.mamavation.com/food/cinnamon-lead-cadmium-glyphosate.html
I realize you have to take these reports with a grain of salt, as there can be contributing factors that don't allow for the whole picture or even an accurate picture.
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@Mossy , between that site abd this one, you wonder if ANY prepared food is safe. The best thing on these charts is plain chocolate m&m.
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@Mossy yeah it is too contaminated . ill look for a farm with better soil
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@Sunniva said in is 0.768 ppm lead for ceylon cinnamon too high?:
@Mossy , between that site abd this one, you wonder if ANY prepared food is safe. The best thing on these charts is plain chocolate m&m.
Yes, it does shine a light on the high contamination of manufactured foods. That site I referenced does attempt to offer up a "best" option, with limited to no contamination; though, depending on the food, there can still be contaminants, and in some cases, like the Ceylon cinnamon, the contaminants are so high that they can't even recommend a brand.
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@Mossy said in is 0.768 ppm lead for ceylon cinnamon too high?:
@sneedful said in is 0.768 ppm lead for ceylon cinnamon too high?:
they powder it themselves in USA and i doubt they are using a machine with lead so it is probably naturally occuring lead from Sri Lanka
This is a good question and timely for me. I've been attempting to get spices and herbs with as little contamination as possible, and I'm finding that this is not easy to do, especially for Ceylon cinnamon. If what I'm finding is correct, Ceylon, of all cinnamon, is currently not even available without contamination:
https://www.mamavation.com/food/cinnamon-lead-cadmium-glyphosate.html
I realize you have to take these reports with a grain of salt, as there can be contributing factors that don't allow for the whole picture or even an accurate picture.
If the cinnamon here refers to the bark, I doubt the lead would be coming from the bark itself. As before lead could get into the bark, it would be filtered off my the xylem of the true and the lead would stay in the center of the tree trunk. The bark is the farthest from the center of the tree, where the xylem is, so it should be free from lead or whatever contamination.
If ever there is lead contamination, it should be coming from the processing of the cinnamon bark after it has been harvested from the tree.
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@yerrag said in is 0.768 ppm lead for ceylon cinnamon too high?:
@Mossy said in is 0.768 ppm lead for ceylon cinnamon too high?:
@sneedful said in is 0.768 ppm lead for ceylon cinnamon too high?:
they powder it themselves in USA and i doubt they are using a machine with lead so it is probably naturally occuring lead from Sri Lanka
This is a good question and timely for me. I've been attempting to get spices and herbs with as little contamination as possible, and I'm finding that this is not easy to do, especially for Ceylon cinnamon. If what I'm finding is correct, Ceylon, of all cinnamon, is currently not even available without contamination:
https://www.mamavation.com/food/cinnamon-lead-cadmium-glyphosate.html
I realize you have to take these reports with a grain of salt, as there can be contributing factors that don't allow for the whole picture or even an accurate picture.
If the cinnamon here refers to the bark, I doubt the lead would be coming from the bark itself. As before lead could get into the bark, it would be filtered off my the xylem of the true and the lead would stay in the center of the tree trunk. The bark is the farthest from the center of the tree, where the xylem is, so it should be free from lead or whatever contamination.
If ever there is lead contamination, it should be coming from the processing of the cinnamon bark after it has been harvested from the tree.
Thank you, Yerrag. I believe the testers are testing the end product of ground cinnamon. Under the "Better" and "Best" categories, they do not note any brand of Ceylon cinnamon. This is what they note under their "Not Our Favorite Cinnamon" category:
"These products were found to have detectable glyphosate according to our EPA-certified laboratory OR they have over 1,000 ug/kg of lead. Some of these products also could require Prop. 65 warnings based on 1 gram of cinnamon per day. (ug/kg = ppb) As an explainer, California Prop. 65 would require a warning accounting for 1 gram of cinnamon per day above 500 ppb lead and 4,100 ppb cadmium or more."
For now, I'm not going to go with any Ceylon cinnamon, and instead go with the one under "Best", that is supposedly less contaminated:
365 Whole Foods Market Organic Cinnamon Ground — Non-detect glyphosate, 14.87 ug/kg lead, & 93.75 ug/kg cadmium
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I have the mountain rose organic ceylon. I read that the contamination is coming from the soil in Sri Lanka. @yerrag I wouldn't think that lead would make it to the inner bark either, but these sticks tested high too https://tamararubin.com/2024/10/simply-organic-cinnamon-sticks/ They can't be getting that much lead contamination just in peeling the inner bark and chopping it could they?
If lead is so wide spread in Sri Lanka soil, I wonder about coconut products from there.
I also have the mountain rose organic cassia cinnamon, from Indonesia. Has anyone seen any tests on cassia? I know some people avoid it because of the coumarin, but I'm not worried about it in the quantities I use.
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@Sippy the cassia is 0.06ppm
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@sneedful thanks. Did you just request a COA from them?
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@Sippy yeah
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@Sippy @Mossy thanks.
