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Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?

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    Kilgore @alfredoolivas
    last edited by Feb 22, 2025, 5:45 PM

    @alfredoolivas said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

    I ate 4kg of potatoes a day for months

    Why did you do that? And how did you eat it?

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      Luke
      last edited by Feb 22, 2025, 6:44 PM

      @alfredoolivas
      Were you once a member of a German acne forum by any chance? I remember there was a guy who ate kilos of potatos daily.

      Great food.

      I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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        Gardner
        last edited by Feb 22, 2025, 7:06 PM

        https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/how-do-you-make-potato-juice.16247/

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          alfredoolivas @Luke
          last edited by alfredoolivas Feb 22, 2025, 7:29 PM Feb 22, 2025, 7:28 PM

          @Kilgore said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

          Why did you do that? And how did you eat it?

          Because I am an idiot. I boiled them mashed them up with lots of salt ,some days 60g of salt, without adding any cream or anything, and added ketchup to them. That is the only way I could eat them; for some reason the combination of the soft creamy, salty, savory potatoes with the tangy, sweet, salty ketchup, is amazing, I couldn't get bored of them.

          I gained like 15kg+ of fat, got really really bloated due to the pottasium. The best change I have made to my diet is staying within the RDA, and ideally below the RDA for pottasium. It is the best diuretic ever, I have zero facial bloat. That change alone is stronger than any supplement or diet I have done, and if people are wondering why they are holding so much water, I would strongly reccomend them to check if they are taking too much pottasium.

          Edit: with or without the sodium I was bloated, it wasn't the salt causing these changes on the potato diet.

          @Luke said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

          Were you once a member of a German acne forum by any chance? I remember there was a guy who ate kilos of potatos daily.

          Great food.

          No, and no, but the latter is biased, I have had a horrible experience from taking in excessive amounts of potatoes, and have very bad memories associated with them.

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            A Former User @alfredoolivas
            last edited by Feb 22, 2025, 7:35 PM

            @alfredoolivas lol you took 60g salt and then blamed the potassium for bloating

            kekw

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              A Former User @A Former User
              last edited by Feb 22, 2025, 7:37 PM

              oh i see your edit

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                Jennifer @Kilgore
                last edited by Jennifer Feb 22, 2025, 11:02 PM Feb 22, 2025, 10:54 PM

                @Kilgore said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                Perhaps my favorite miracle story from Ray: a woman wasting away, unable to digest protein, then Ray cooks her some potato juice slop, and she gains 65 lbs and becomes healthy again. Insane stuff.
                GkVlaSOaQAARnZ5.jpg

                Now, is potato protein really better than egg yolk protein? I know that eating the yolks is superior to whites as the whites only have protein while the yolk have all the nutrients. I usually eat 6 yolks + 2 whites if I have scrambled eggs.

                My favorite is probably Ray’s story about the dog that regrew an eyeball he lost in a fight on a diet of raw milk.

                Having tried potato protein—4 lb of russets juiced daily for 2 weeks and 3 months of nothing but peeled baby potatoes—I find egg protein to be the better protein source for me, however, I suspect I had a potato allergy because I developed bean-sized tonsil stones by the end of the potato fast and Ray said tonsil stones are white blood cells from an immune response. My body responds so well to egg protein that I’m able to maintain my muscle mass on a diet comprised of fruit and two eggs daily.

                I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                  Kilgore @Gardner
                  last edited by Feb 23, 2025, 12:53 AM

                  @Gardner Thanks Gardner.

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                    Kilgore @alfredoolivas
                    last edited by Feb 23, 2025, 12:56 AM

                    @alfredoolivas said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                    the anabolism I got from it didn't compare to when I started to add animal protein in my diet.

                    That could be just because of the nutrients. Im talking strictly protein vs protein. But obviously replacing animal protein with potato protein would be rather retarded.

                    @alfredoolivas said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                    I boiled them mashed them up with lots of salt ,some days 60g of salt, without adding any cream or anything, and added ketchup to them. That is the only way I could eat them; for some reason the combination of the soft creamy, salty, savory potatoes with the tangy, sweet, salty ketchup, is amazing, I couldn't get bored of them.

                    Lol I ate them like that as well when trying 0fat 0protein diet.

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                      Corngold @Kilgore
                      last edited by Feb 23, 2025, 1:08 AM

                      @Kilgore said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                      Lol I ate them like that as well when trying 0fat 0protein diet.

                      All carbohydrates? How did that end?

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                        Corngold
                        last edited by Feb 23, 2025, 1:28 AM

                        I don't know about juice but potatoes are great.
                        I eat them several times a week, sometimes daily.
                        It seems like one caveat with potatoes for dinner is having low fat intake in the morning and afternoon so that you can add milk, butter, sour cream or cheese without exceeding an ideal daily fat intake. That's the only drawback because sometimes I eat a lot of fat in the daytime.

                        Skim milk seems like a great way to reduce daytime fat that can go into more savory night meals.

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                          Gardner @alfredoolivas
                          last edited by Feb 24, 2025, 3:23 PM

                          @alfredoolivas said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                          @Kilgore said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                          Why did you do that? And how did you eat it?

                          Because I am an idiot. I boiled them mashed them up with lots of salt ,some days 60g of salt, without adding any cream or anything, and added ketchup to them. That is the only way I could eat them; for some reason the combination of the soft creamy, salty, savory potatoes with the tangy, sweet, salty ketchup, is amazing, I couldn't get bored of them.

                          I gained like 15kg+ of fat, got really really bloated due to the pottasium. The best change I have made to my diet is staying within the RDA, and ideally below the RDA for pottasium. It is the best diuretic ever, I have zero facial bloat. That change alone is stronger than any supplement or diet I have done, and if people are wondering why they are holding so much water, I would strongly reccomend them to check if they are taking too much pottasium.

                          Edit: with or without the sodium I was bloated, it wasn't the salt causing these changes on the potato diet.

                          @Luke said in Favorite Peat Miracle story & Is potato protein really that good?:

                          Were you once a member of a German acne forum by any chance? I remember there was a guy who ate kilos of potatos daily.

                          Great food.

                          No, and no, but the latter is biased, I have had a horrible experience from taking in excessive amounts of potatoes, and have very bad memories associated with them.

                          What is your eGFR (estimated glomerular filtration rate) value ? Usually you get it on standard blood test ...

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                            BroJonas
                            last edited by Feb 24, 2025, 3:34 PM

                            I like the one where a diabetic friend was losing his toes to gangrene and would heal when given thyroid. When he’d forget to take it it would come back. And this back and forth happened a few times.

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                              LetTheRedeemed
                              last edited by Feb 24, 2025, 6:42 PM

                              I like the one where Ray offers his friend a bottle of preg for a hangover, the guy proceeds to take like 2 bottles a week for months with no ill effect.

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                                LetTheRedeemed
                                last edited by LetTheRedeemed Feb 24, 2025, 6:47 PM Feb 24, 2025, 6:44 PM

                                Sodium reduces bloating; fermented fibers in the gut increases estrogen which increases bloating.

                                The relevant “protein” in potatoes is actually the keto acids that the liver assembles with glucose molecules to make any protein needed on demand — it reduces inflammatory protein to practically zero. It so unburdens the liver that healing can happen effectively, thus quickly.

                                It’s due to the high fermentable starch of potatoes that Ray generally suggests that sickly people only consume the juice, and healthy people consume it with a hefty dose of saturated fat for binding to starch.

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                                  Luke
                                  last edited by Feb 24, 2025, 8:42 PM

                                  I like the one where his plumber was going to retire because he had cartilage damage in his knee or something like that. Ray gave him a bottle of Progest-E to rub it in. A few days later the plumber visited Ray and ran up and down his stairs to show him that he had no pain anymore. He was still working as a plumber ten years later or so.

                                  I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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                                    A Former User @LetTheRedeemed
                                    last edited by A Former User Feb 24, 2025, 9:47 PM Feb 24, 2025, 9:45 PM

                                    @LetTheRedeemed it was a guy with an opiate habit that took like a whole pottle of progest-e after drinking alcohol at a party with ray and the next time ray saw him he didn't have a problem with drugs anymore. which is legit for bioenergetic principles because the "euphoria" (this word can have negative connotations depending on the perspective; when people are referring to euphoria as some sort of manic excitement. I refer to it as just a positive state of being of wellness) from a good metabolism no cap rivals the feeling from using opiates and is actually better because there is no nagging thought about the come down because there is no come down from a euphoria from bioenergetic principles

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                                      LetTheRedeemed @A Former User
                                      last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 1:14 AM

                                      @sushi_is_cringe no cap indeed 🙏 🔥 🧂

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                                        Mauritio
                                        last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 6:23 PM

                                        Potatoes is as good as it gets for starch. But Im gravitating more and more towards no starch. Kind of happened organically , and it seems to be good for metabolism and digestion .

                                        Dare to think.

                                        My X:
                                        x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                          Corngold @Mauritio
                                          last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 6:32 PM

                                          @Mauritio

                                          Did you cut starch entirely, or are you replacing it with carbs?

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