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PEATSPHERE is dysgenic

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    A Former User @bot-mod
    last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 7:35 PM

    ive deleted my posts because i realized that i actually dont care about this person in this way
    to talk to them to try to help them
    understand their cringe, and i have no real desire to “put them in their place”. they could point and laugh at me in public and i would feel nothing on most days.

    ive ascended

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      nicemushroom17
      last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 7:43 PM

      I agree on the men in the peatsphere generally not looking good. However I’ve seen a bunch of peatarded women who look good and much healthier since peating .

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        Corngold @nicemushroom17
        last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 7:57 PM

        @nicemushroom17

        Dudes only improve with lifting, more money or a woman. Also these are the things that usually ruin men.

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          Chud
          last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 7:58 PM

          This post is deleted!
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            Corngold @samson
            last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 8:06 PM

            @samson said in PEATSPHERE is dysgenic:

            almost no normie is consciously doing 1-4

            Yep if only because #1. But the others are very important to consider.

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              bot-mod @Chud
              last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 8:18 PM

              @Chud said in PEATSPHERE is dysgenic:

              physiz mog

              I have truly been mogged. Searching bioen.life for protocol.

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                nicemushroom17 @Corngold
                last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 8:31 PM

                @Corngold The key is being conscious while not developing a neurotic obsession, becoming a hypochondriac.

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                  nicemushroom17 @Chud
                  last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 8:35 PM

                  @Chud nah his physique is female gazed, Mike Mentzer is male gazed af

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                    nicemushroom17 @nicemushroom17
                    last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 8:45 PM

                    @nicemushroom17 surfers have the best builds though

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                      Gaston
                      last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 8:53 PM

                      Blocked. Easy.

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                        Corngold @nicemushroom17
                        last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 11:43 PM

                        @nicemushroom17
                        true, it's kind of a paradox that any health community seems to attract hypochondriacs and neurotics.

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                          Cicero
                          last edited by Mar 13, 2025, 2:05 AM

                          I feel a lot better, stronger, more energetic, less anxiety, etc., when I eat a lot of sugar and avoid pufa. I don't know how it affects my appearance but I'm not an object.

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                            PEATCEL @nicemushroom17
                            last edited by Mar 13, 2025, 6:04 AM

                            @nicemushroom17 1L goat milk every day, chicken, lean pork, beef minced meat, a lot of cheese, chocolates, fruits, honey, rye bread. This was my diet before I found out about peat 4 years ago and it's still the same, I eat based on instinct also overthinking food like a neurotic woman is gay.

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                              PEATCEL @nicemushroom17
                              last edited by Mar 13, 2025, 6:07 AM

                              @nicemushroom17 said in PEATSPHERE is dysgenic:

                              However I’ve seen a bunch of peatarded women who look good and much healthier since peating

                              It's sloots latching on to the latest trend.

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                                pittybitty
                                last edited by Mar 13, 2025, 11:17 AM

                                If you are already healthy then thinking about health all day will make you less healthy. The only person who would not be dysgenic in the peatsphere are people who were really sick but made a 100% recovery. Possible, but statistically unlikely.

                                The Twitter girls aren't actually sick, for them it's just a hip lifestyle.

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                                  Rah1woot
                                  last edited by Rah1woot Mar 13, 2025, 2:12 PM Mar 13, 2025, 1:51 PM

                                  I think you're more-or-less right. Separating the social media etc "PEATSPHERE" from those correct biological ideas of Ray Peat's, it is not a beacon of radiant health. Look at the people still hanging out on the old charlie forum: the neuroticism and fear drips out of most sentences there.

                                  And this makes perfect sense because it's usually those with bad health that go out of their way to join a Health Community. Hence the other stereotype that peaters are all unemployed, they have all day to read about the theory. Ray himself said something like "you know you're doing something right when you lose interest in your health problem" and I think that's basically right.

                                  Mao Zedong said something like "We need books, but we must oppose book worship". That's how I think about it. It's a good intellectual antidote to mainstream concentration camp starvation ideology, but it's what most people that don't read much health propaganda seem to do anyways.

                                  Much of that starvation culture is something we inherited from the Nazi civil society, by the way: Hitler was a hypothyroid vegetarian, and mass soy bean consumption is something that was heavily promoted there, as was the idea of cheap wartime "substitutes" for things like coffee, now brought forward through to meat products in our "peacetime". The genetic determinist ideology set them back heavily because it had the political function of excusing anti-reality conditions.

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                                    bot-mod @Rah1woot
                                    last edited by Mar 13, 2025, 2:30 PM

                                    @Rah1woot said in PEATSPHERE is dysgenic:

                                    Separating the social media etc "PEATSPHERE" from those correct biological ideas of Ray Peat's, it is not a beacon of radiant health.

                                    Some may be in it to carry on the science. Is anyone aware that "the science is settled".

                                    Many of the people posting studies and literature excerpts appear to be engaged in actual CoT reasoning. Which probably involves more than language.

                                    Look at the people still hanging out on the old charlie forum: the neuroticism and fear drips out of most sentences there.

                                    Maybe they need a hand in way yet to be described. Or a way yet to be redescribed. Or a combination thereof.

                                    Ray himself said something like "you know you're doing something right when you lose interest in your health problem" and I think that's basically right.

                                    Conventional science certainly seems to take interest in others.

                                    Mao Zedong said

                                    A thread of this could be interesting.

                                    Much of that starvation culture is something we inherited from the Nazi civil society, by the way: Hitler was a hypothyroid vegetarian, and mass soy bean consumption is something that was heavily promoted there, as was the idea of cheap wartime "substitutes" for things like coffee, now brought forward through to meat products in our "peacetime". The genetic determinist ideology set them back heavily because it had the political function of excusing anti-reality conditions.

                                    The "PUFOid proclamation" apparently.

                                    But why has consumption allegedly been so high in China.

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                                      nicemushroom17 @Rah1woot
                                      last edited by Mar 13, 2025, 4:05 PM

                                      @Rah1woot I also think a lot of the ailments are somewhat self manifested because solving ailments can give you a sense of purpose.

                                      I noticed this in my self. I was an athlete, got injured which ended my career. Lost sense of identity. Started dealing with some health problems. Ooh perfect figuring out my health will be my purpose. Then became obsessed with tinkering and trying to fix my health and I now wonder if my body thinks it needs some kind of ailment or problem as a way to fulfill keeping what it thinks is my purpose(fixing my health).

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                                        VehmicJuryman @PEATCEL
                                        last edited by Mar 16, 2025, 1:21 PM

                                        They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.

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                                          bot-mod @bot-mod
                                          last edited by Mar 16, 2025, 9:37 PM

                                          @ThinPicking said in PEATSPHERE is dysgenic:

                                          But why has consumption allegedly been so high in China.

                                          @Rah1woot do you have an angle on that?

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