Who's still doing a PUFA depletion detox diet?
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@heretoday said in Who's still doing a PUFA depletion detox diet? (long terms results, hopes dreams, future plans):
@Jennifer said in Am I the last PUFA depleter detoxer left in this world?:
I’ve averaged under 2 g of PUFA a day for the last 20+ years and most of that being under 1 g a day
You shall be our Queen
We'll call it the pufa depletion society.Would love to see a day of eating. My tracking app only had me that low a couple times a year.
Haha! Will I be dethroned if I have the occasional avocado?
I tried copying my cronometer log for today, but had no luck so hopefully this is readable…
ENERGY SUMMERY
• Consumed—2,414 kcal
• Protein—59.8 g
• Carbs—328.2 g
• Fat—40.0 g
• MUFA—1.3 g
• PUFA—0.7 gBREAKFAST (907 kcal • 23 g protein • 128 g carbs • 16 g fat)
• Alexandre Family Farm, 100% Grass-Fed A2/A2 Low-fat Yogurt • 12 oz • 140.08 kcal
• St Dalfour, Fruit Spread, Mango & Passion Fruit • 2 tbsp (15ml) • 80 kcal
• Melon, Galia, Flesh Only • 32 oz • 221.01 kcal
• Bananas, Raw • 1 medium - 7" to 7 7/8" long • 103.84 kcal
• Jackfruit, Raw • 8 oz • 215.46 kcal
• Instant Coffee Dry Mix, Decaf, Unprepared • 5 g • 17.55 kcal
• Coconut Cream, Liquid from Grated Meat • 1 tbsp • 49.5 kcal
• Dolcedi Low Glycemic Sweetener From Apples • 3 × 1/2 tsp • 30 kcalLUNCH (979 kcal • 19 g protein • 121 g carbs • 15 g fat)
• Mollusks, scallop, mixed species, raw • 113 g • 77.97 kcal
• Honey • 1 tbsp • 64.41 kcal
• Exotic Superfoods, Young Thai Coconut Meat • 8 oz • 204.12 kcal
• Guava Nectar • 32 fl oz • 632.51 kcalDINNER (528 kcal • 18 g protein • 79 g carbs • 9 g fat)
• Alexandre Family Farm, 100% Grass-Fed A2/A2 Low-fat Yogurt • 12 oz • 140.08 kcal
• St. Dalfour, Fruit Spread, Pineapple & Mango • 2 tbsp • 70 kcal
• Melon, Galia, Flesh Only • 32 oz • 221.01 kcal
• Instant Coffee Dry Mix, Decaf, Unprepared • 5 g • 17.55 kcal
• Coconut Cream, Liquid from Grated Meat • 1 tbsp • 49.5 kcal
• Dolcedi Low Glycemic Sweetener From Apples • 3 × 1/2 tsp • 30 kcal -
@bio3nergetic said in Who's still doing a PUFA depletion detox diet? (long terms results, hopes dreams, future plans):
However, as an optimized "peatarian" specimen, one can afford the occasional pufa exposure. Again, NOT to engage in a full pufa meal, but some amounts that would come with the occasional chicken meal, and that is a good quality, whole food chicken meal at that, shouldn't be fret about.
Agreed. I don’t worry about PUFA. My focus is on eating real food that I enjoy and my protein intake because they have had the greatest impact on my health.
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@Cicero said in Who's still doing a PUFA depletion detox diet? (long terms results, hopes dreams, future plans):
I can't eat more than a few grams of PUFA without having symptoms. It's just not worth it to me to ruin my day for some french fries or whatever that don't even fucking taste good anymore. FUCK. It fills me with rage that this is the world we live in.
I ate fast food for lunch two days in a row. I could have eaten good stuff but I figured I would take the risk to see how it effects me after really restricting that junk. And oh man, even though I was taking aspirin anyways, which alleviated what would have been worse, it was pretty bad. At least 1-2 days after of what I'm guessing is estrogenic low mood/depression/irritation. I'm quite convinced that the gut is driving the brain - and vice versa.
And yeah, the fries weren't even good. The other stuff... wasn't even "great." I was literally still hungry after eating big portions of that slop. Bizarre. Still hungry, but not sated, higher blood pressure and sugar and lower mood. Lose lose situation.
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@Corngold just make that food at home. chicken tenders breaded in panko and fried in refined coconut oil are chef's kiss uma delicia.
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@Jennifer You are incredibly saturated eating this way like donate your body to science level saturation. I'm really careful and eat 6-7x more pufa
Please keep us informed of anything interesting results and thank you for sharing.
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@sushi_is_cringe salmon is up there in popularity in the US as well…
I avoid it now. Although if someone put a bagel with cream cheese and gravlax in front of my face I would eat it! And capers! Mmmm -
@heretoday I am Pufa avoidant! Best noticeable change is I don’t sunburn. I work outside and don’t use sunscreen. I’ve been low ish Pufa for along time before I found rays work. WAPF paleo ish, vegetarian ish for 20 years but ate tons of nuts. Lots of avocados etc. I would get sunburns if I wasn’t mindful about building my tan and sun tolerance…. Now 4 years into Rays work. It took me and probably others that came from meaty carnivore ish way of eating along time to rap my Pufa filled brain around the idea of lowering pufa. I just thought well I’m not cooking or adding seed oil to my food 3 meals a day so I’m good right? Idk I think it pays off to make the extra effort to lower animal fat as well and those lowering more Pufa. Some of those yummy cheeses and ice cream I just don’t have the metabolism yet to utilize that much fat.
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@dapose said in Who's still doing a PUFA depletion detox diet? (long terms results, hopes dreams, future plans):
Best noticeable change is I don’t sunburn. I work outside and don’t use sunscreen
but maybe this is just the beginning and down the road as I deplete I become a sort of Wolverine or Deadpool regrowing limbs and whatnot
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Is Jennifer a Wolverine in her spare-time?
super powers where always the best case scenarioafter over 4 years I have much better appetite control which always seemed like a superpower
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@heretoday please stop posting ai slop sir
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@sushi_is_cringe ok boss
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@heretoday said in Who's still doing a PUFA depletion detox diet? (long terms results, hopes dreams, future plans):
@Jennifer You are incredibly saturated eating this way like donate your body to science level saturation. I'm really careful and eat 6-7x more pufa
Please keep us informed of anything interesting results and thank you for sharing.
You’re welcome, and I will.
Hilarious…a queen with a coconut. I’m made up of 60% coconut water, I drink so much of it.
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@heretoday said in Who's still doing a PUFA depletion detox diet? (long terms results, hopes dreams, future plans):
Is Jennifer a Wolverine in her spare-time?
super powers where always the best case scenarioafter over 4 years I have much better appetite control which always seemed like a superpower
Nope, not a Wolverine, a mountain climber:
It’s all about the altitude…and living on the edge
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@dapose said in Who's still doing a PUFA depletion detox diet? (long terms results, hopes dreams, future plans):
@heretoday I am Pufa avoidant! Best noticeable change is I don’t sunburn. I work outside and don’t use sunscreen. I’ve been low ish Pufa for along time before I found rays work. WAPF paleo ish, vegetarian ish for 20 years but ate tons of nuts. Lots of avocados etc. I would get sunburns if I wasn’t mindful about building my tan and sun tolerance…. Now 4 years into Rays work. It took me and probably others that came from meaty carnivore ish way of eating along time to rap my Pufa filled brain around the idea of lowering pufa. I just thought well I’m not cooking or adding seed oil to my food 3 meals a day so I’m good right? Idk I think it pays off to make the extra effort to lower animal fat as well and those lowering more Pufa. Some of those yummy cheeses and ice cream I just don’t have the metabolism yet to utilize that much fat.
Same here but for me, it was getting my vitamin D level up. I used to burn easily and chalked it up to having very fair skin, but now that I maintain a minimum vitamin D level of 50, I don’t burn, however, I do use a natural zinc sunblock when I’m climbing because my skin looks and feels much healthier, i.e., smoother and softer without a tan.
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@Jennifer Looks like heaven
pearl barley has 1/4 pufa of oats for those like me who have gotten hooked on them and want a replacement
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@Corngold said in Who's still doing a PUFA depletion detox diet? (long terms results, hopes dreams, future plans):
Not too worried about the pufa in eggs or meat though.
I choose free enhanced hens to avoid too much LA (W6), the bio-kind or free grounded.
Be - producer identifier - bio (or free)
Be for Belgium - xyz354567 - 0 (bio)
0 = bio
1 = free enhanced
2 = from hangar (close but with minimum delimited space)
3 = industrial chicken coop (very limited space). Reserved for bakeries and industrialists.For meat I prefer duck, very young poultry (not yellow skin, otherwise it has been fed with corn), lamb, ground beef. Sometimes white fish if not a predator like haddock, or a third of shrimp package (150-200 g / 3) in a raw vegetable salad (corn salad) with half an apple and a seasonal fruit.
Seldom pork sausage.
I try to avoid cattle fed with corn or soy. -
Chicken Farming Method (Mode d’élevage)
0 = Organic
1 = Free-Range (en plein air)
2 = Barn (raised on the ground, in a shed, with an appropriately area)
3 = Caged (only for pastry and industrial purpose)
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With chickens and eggs it's probably best to keep your own if possible and then feed them non-crap. Dr. Peat once mentioned in an interview that some farmer raised pigs and fed them non-crap, I think he mentioned potatos, fruit and coconut. And when they had the meat tested it was as low in PUFA as beef. I would guess it's the same with chicken. If you don't feed them the typical PUFA food, it will reflect the PUFA content in their own fat tissue and the eggs.
I'm not sure organic makes that much of a difference in that regard, because they are fed organic crap instead of conventional crap. But at least they have a chance to eat some worms or insects once in a while when they are outside instead of some cage.
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He also mentioned he would eat 4 or 5 eggs a day when he was in Mexico, because Mexicans feed their chickens leftovers from their own food. But he wouldn't eat more than one egg in the United States.I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)
