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    • CiceroC
      Cicero
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      Anyone know where to get DHT now that PPL is out of stock? It's been a hot minute, and I've got a feeling they might not be getting more.

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        wester130 @Cicero
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        there's a seller on this forum

        https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/3338/stanolabs-dht-gel

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          Mulloch94
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          I think alphagels is still in business. Just email the guy. I haven't ordered from them in a REAL long time but their account on X was still posting like a week ago. So they still around. I heard from someone they even have DMSO-free solutions now, which is awesome. I don't really like DMSO.

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            alfredoolivas @Cicero
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            @Cicero https://5arsociety.com/product/dhte-100mg-ml/

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              RandomUser @Mulloch94
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              @Mulloch94

              What products do you have experience with from AlphaGels? Can you relay your experience with them?

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                Mulloch94 @RandomUser
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                @RandomUser said in DHT:

                @Mulloch94

                What products do you have experience with from AlphaGels? Can you relay your experience with them?

                When I purchased from them all they had was DHT, T, and DHT/T combos. Idk if that's all they still have or if they're selling other stuff now.

                I used the 10% DHT solution. It's legit, but I think most people (especially in the Peat-sphere) are really overrating DHT. I barely noticed an uptick in libido, it was there, but not what you'd expect when you consider all the ranting and raving about it.

                My main reaction to it was just getting really hot. It's very thermogenic in my opinion. Not sure if this is through it's cAMP mechanism or if it's actually altering uncoupling proteins somehow. It might serve a good place in a cutting stack maybe. After all that's precisely what oxandrolone is made for and it's a DHT derivative.

                My personal recommendation to pretty much any male under the age of 50 is to take normal testosterone (not DHT) if you're wanting the metabolic benefits, libido benefits, and muscle retention benefits. I actually slept better on normal testosterone too.

                I would also just suggest being careful with end-point steroids period. It's not something Ray ever recommended. And if you do take something like DHT you should probably back fill things like pregnenolone & DHEA.

                I think the group of men that would MOST benefit from a PURE DHT supplementation are men 50+ who may be dealing with certain prostate concerns and don't want to take a chance of estrogen via normal T causing them problems. In these people DHT would be perfect. As randomnized clinical trials have shown DHT to have either no effect on prostate or actually reduce it's size.

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                  Mulloch94 @RandomUser
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                  @RandomUser Have you tried Haidut's androsterone? Or any androsterone for that matter? Basically almost the same feeling as DHT. I do think androsterone is slightly more sedative. Probably from the GABA effects.

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                    RandomUser @Mulloch94
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                    @Mulloch94

                    I have not. I used Haidut's 11-keto-DHT for a while but had some strange effects with that. Effects were also pretty marginal. Are you familiar with it?

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                      jamezb46 @Mulloch94
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                      @Mulloch94 I think one of the main mechanisms through which oxandrolone increases metabolic rate by decreasing Thyroid binding globulin (TBG). Maybe DHT can do that as well.

                      In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                        Mulloch94 @RandomUser
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                        @RandomUser said in DHT:

                        @Mulloch94

                        I have not. I used Haidut's 11-keto-DHT for a while but had some strange effects with that. Effects were also pretty marginal. Are you familiar with it?

                        Yeah, I think 11-keto-DHT has a longer half life than normal DHT. You might not have experienced anything because it was under dosed. Idk though. When I did it I took 100 mg of DHT. I was a fucking furnace for like an hour. I really took too much tbh. It was dissolved in DMSO so the absorption was likely near 90-99%

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                          Mulloch94 @jamezb46
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                          @jamezb46 said in DHT:

                          @Mulloch94 I think one of the main mechanisms through which oxandrolone increases metabolic rate by decreasing Thyroid binding globulin (TBG). Maybe DHT can do that as well.

                          Yes definitely. This is a feature of pretty much every androgen, and progesterone. Well at the very least testosterone and DHT. I don't know about DHEA.

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