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Peaty uncoupler vs. Ozempic who wins ? New study.

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    Mauritio @happyhanneke
    last edited by Apr 30, 2025, 7:53 PM

    @happyhanneke nice. Just send me message and we'll set it up.

    Dare to think.

    My X:
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      Mauritio
      last edited by Apr 30, 2025, 8:06 PM

      "This study indicates that BAM15 inhibits atherosclerosis through a multi-molecular mechanism, and we propose it as a novel anti-atherosclerotic drug."

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40247008/

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      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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        Mauritio
        last edited by Apr 30, 2025, 8:09 PM

        Science is slowly getting more peaty.
        Combination of a thyroid receptor b agonist with BAM15 for fatty liver, showed superior results than each on their own.

        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39152636/

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          A Former User @Mauritio
          last edited by A Former User Apr 30, 2025, 10:29 PM Apr 30, 2025, 10:27 PM

          @Mauritio post ur before and after too

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            A Former User @alfredoolivas
            last edited by Apr 30, 2025, 10:29 PM

            @alfredoolivas lol they made their Chinese peptide company sound like sigma Aldrich

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              alfredoolivas @Mauritio
              last edited by Jun 2, 2025, 6:41 PM

              @Mauritio updates on the BAM 15?

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                Mauritio @alfredoolivas
                last edited by Jun 2, 2025, 7:10 PM

                @alfredoolivas The other 2 guys dropped out, so I haven't ordered 😕

                Dare to think.

                My X:
                x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                  alfredoolivas @Mauritio
                  last edited by Jun 3, 2025, 1:42 AM

                  @Mauritio 18e9c33a-d69b-4d8c-a627-2fb3bb93e38b-image.png

                  They now sell it as 60 50mg capsules, but it is still quite expensive - 188 Euro including shipping.

                  I used their service recently, my package took 10 days to arrive from when I first ordered and it reshiped from the netherlands so no customs issue. Highly reccomend them and their sales agent Tansy

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                    Mauritio @alfredoolivas
                    last edited by Jun 3, 2025, 5:10 PM

                    @alfredoolivas nice thanks for the update.
                    I might actually do this.

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                      Mauritio @alfredoolivas
                      last edited by 27 days ago

                      @alfredoolivas I ordered BAM15 a few days ago and if the tracking info is correct , it will arrive tomorrow already.

                      Not sure if I'll have time to try it right away since I'm still running another experiment, but maybe over the weekend I'll try a low dose.

                      Dare to think.

                      My X:
                      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                        alfredoolivas @Mauritio
                        last edited by 26 days ago

                        @Mauritio yeah it’s a crazy shipping line they have running.

                        Are you referring to the DNP microdose? Amazing experimentation, may I ask what inspired you to pick 2mg as a dose or where I can find an explanation you previously gave?

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                          Mauritio @alfredoolivas
                          last edited by Mauritio 26 days ago 26 days ago

                          @alfredoolivas Yes, you can find more on my X. Search for "DNP" on my site or look at my latest post on DNP in which I quoted a few other posts on low dose DNP (including the relevant studies). And there's more studies on microdose DNP that I haven't postet yet. One study shows reversal of ALS phenotype in mice for example.

                          I suspect that I've developed tolerance to the 2mg dose. So I'll probably increase the dose to 4mg and see if the benefits reappear.

                          Dare to think.

                          My X:
                          x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                            Kilgore
                            last edited by 26 days ago

                            Interesting thread @onliest

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                              Mauritio
                              last edited by 14 days ago

                              I received my BAM15 today (finally).
                              If someone wants to purchase half of it, let me know.

                              Dare to think.

                              My X:
                              x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                Mauritio
                                last edited by Mauritio 14 days ago 14 days ago

                                Here BAM15 alleviated atherosclerosis by inhibiting the NLRP3 inflammosome.
                                The dosage was only 30mg (HED), so it seems low doses have benefits as well.
                                This was subcutaneous injectiom so you have to factor that in

                                "BAM15 reduced atherosclerotic plaque formation, lipid deposition, and inflammation, and diminished mtROS expression and ox-mtDNA content in the AS mouse models. In both in vivo and in vitro experiments, BAM15 markedly inhibited the activation of the NLRP3 inflammasome, leading to reduced pyroptosis in endothelial cells. "
                                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40393254/

                                Here, BAM15 and a Trb agonist are more effective for treating fatty liver than each on their own. So combining BAM with sobetirome or just T3 should be good combo for the liver .
                                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39152636/

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                                x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                  Mauritio @Mauritio
                                  last edited by Mauritio 14 days ago 14 days ago

                                  @Mauritio said in Peaty uncoupler vs. Ozempic who wins ? New study.:

                                  BAM down regulated SCD1 by almost 900-fold ! SCD1 concerts saturated fats into unsaturated fats and is implicated in many chronic diseases.

                                  "...severe downregulation of sterol regulatory element‐binding transcription factor 1 (Srebf1 ; 490‐fold downregulated), carbohydrate‐responsive element‐binding protein (Mlxlpl ; 99‐fold downregulated), fatty acid synthase (Fasn ; 89‐fold downregulated), stearoyl‐CoA desaturase (Scd1 ; 898‐fold downregulated), adipose triglyceride lipase (Pnpla2 ; undetected in BAM15), and peroxisome proliferator‐activated receptor gamma (Pparg ; undetected in BAM15)”

                                  I think this above part is very interesting. These down regulated factors all point to BAM lowering lipogenesis. It might even all be downstream from PPARg .
                                  Fireinabottle writes about it here . Animals that lack PPARg remain insulin sensitive on a high PUFA diet and gain less weight. This happens because PPARg increased PDK4 which lowers pyruvate dehydrogenase. So lowering it will increase pyruvate dehydrogenase and enable you to burn sugar better.
                                  In the study above on BAM15, PPARg was undetectable.

                                  Dare to think.

                                  My X:
                                  x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                    Mauritio
                                    last edited by Mauritio 9 days ago 9 days ago

                                    I've seen people dose BAM15 several times a day due to its short half life, but this might not be necessary.
                                    Since it's fat soluble, it stays active inside the mitochondria for a longer period of time.

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                                    On its safety:
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                                    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7338798/#emmm202012088-fig-0005ev

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                                    My X:
                                    x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                      alfredoolivas @Mauritio
                                      last edited by 9 days ago

                                      @Mauritio I wish the intracellular half life of substances was studied more

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                                        Mauritio
                                        last edited by Mauritio 4 days ago 4 days ago

                                        I have tried BAM15 at a dose of 25mg for 1 week.

                                        I have lost about 600g in weight and my strength has increased. I was stuck at 8 pull ups for a few months and on my last day of taking it I increased the dose to 35mg and I was able to do 9 pull ups.
                                        If my observation holds true, and there is some evidence for that in the studies I posted, than this will become VERY popular amongst bodybuilders. A safer version of DNP where you loose weight and maybe even increase strength ?!
                                        The first 4-5 days I had a lot of bile dumps, what seems to be candida. I have noticed the same with DNP. Maybe uncoupling somehow helps the liver/ gallbladder somehow to excrete fungi.
                                        I also noticed from day 1 that I felt warmer and my hands were slightly sweaty. Although measured ear temp didn't change.
                                        I have stopped after a week because insomnia seems to have creeped up on me, but I'm not sure at all if it's even related because it's still there after I stopped.

                                        Overall those results are quite amazing given that a normal dose seems to be around 200-400mg and I noticed all of this from 25-35 mg.

                                        Dare to think.

                                        My X:
                                        x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                          CrumblingCookie @Mauritio
                                          last edited by CrumblingCookie 4 days ago 4 days ago

                                          @Mauritio
                                          To me as an outsider those changes may be subtle fluctuations.
                                          Wrt to the insomnia, could it be that your increased metabolism has depleted in some essential nutrient factor? Potassium or something of the wider B-family? Choline perhaps in the face of your reported biliary losses and what felt like increased liver turnover?
                                          We need you to push on and report wrt to a consistent and sustainable trend over the short and medium-term : ).

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