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    Cysteine depletion triggers adipose tissue thermogenesis and weight loss

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    • DavidPSD
      DavidPS @LetTheRedeemed
      last edited by DavidPS

      @LetTheRedeemed - As stated in the opening post:

      Systemic cysteine depletion in mice causes lethal weight loss with increased fat utilization and browning of adipocytes that is rescued upon restoration of cysteine in diet.

      Cysteine is a conditionally essential amino acid. The US RDI is 287 mg and I would not try to go lower than that amount.

      It is very easy to get to the RDI for cysteine. The flipside is that it difficult to keep your levels below the RDI; but it can be done if you have your heart set on it.

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      ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
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      • DavidPSD
        DavidPS @DavidPS
        last edited by DavidPS

        Using gelatin to maintain protein levels during cysteine depletion could cause an imbalance in the Lysine and Arginine ratio in the diet.

        From cronometer.com, here is the amino acid profile of gelatin.102ac1cd-2471-41f3-8577-be52b1cc9edf-image.png

        It is desirable to have diet's overall ratio of Lysine to Arginine to be more than 1.0 to prevent viral outbreaks. Foods with a higher lysine content compared to arginine are generally recommended to help manage symptoms. I usually have a high amount to dairy in my diet (see chart below). You can also use Lysine supplements to change the overall ratio in your diet.

        Lysine and Arginine Food Guide

        ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
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        • Milk DestroyerM
          Milk Destroyer
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          What's a quick recipe for easy daily gelatin consumption? Just making fruit jelly?

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          • alfredoolivasA
            alfredoolivas @Milk Destroyer
            last edited by

            @Milk-Destroyer dissolve it in coffee or milk. You can dissolve loads and it’s still easy to drink these drinks. Just heat up a cup of coffee / milk until it’s boiling in the microwave, add in your gelatin, mix and boom.

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              LetTheRedeemed
              last edited by LetTheRedeemed

              So far this diet suffers the same paradox i’ve found before: a food will be low cystine, but high methionine or tryptophan, and vice versa.

              Studies have also shown that methionine is a component similar to cystine. Tryptophan can be preferentially converted to serotonin under stress, but in an ideal state uses b2/b6 and iron cofactors to produce niacin and niacinamide…

              Besides the gelatin, it Looks like the best food compromise for protein is oatbran. I could try this…. Maybe supplement b2 & b6 and keep a weekly serving of liver/oysters for the iron.

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              • sunsunsunS
                sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
                last edited by sunsunsun

                @alfredoolivas please stop posting disinformation
                . gelatin blooms in cold liquid and then is to be heated. putting it in hot liquid directly makes it into concrete.

                hydrolyzed collagen can be dissolved in whatever, thoughever

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                • alfredoolivasA
                  alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
                  last edited by

                  @sunsunsun Have you tried drinking the coffee with the gelatin dissolved in it, whilst it’s still hot ?

                  That way it won’t turn into concrete.

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                    Ena @Milk Destroyer
                    last edited by

                    I just eat a small spoonful of gelatine straight from the spoon. My beef gelatine tastes wonderful.

                    But make sure to drink a little water first, so your mouth is moist. Otherwise, you'll definitely need some water afterwards.

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                      LetTheRedeemed @Ena
                      last edited by LetTheRedeemed

                      @Ena this feels like a classic troll but you sound too sincere lol…
                      I could never imagine eating beef gelatin by the spoonful hahah

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                      • alfredoolivasA
                        alfredoolivas @Ena
                        last edited by

                        @Ena it will have a harder time absorbing if you didn’t dissolve it

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                        • sunsunsunS
                          sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
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                          @alfredoolivas gelatin needs to bloom in cold water before being heated to dissolve correctly. this has been known for like 200 years

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