Bromocriptine is more anti serotonin than cypro for me
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Bromo gives me the most low serotonin symptoms like high sex drive (or rather lowers the threshold of material needed for arousal), more lush colours, genuine enjoyment from a good musical passage , need for novelty, somewhat smaller need for verbalisation (this occurs on cypro as well tbf). The only anti serotonin stuff I get from cypro is nuked cortisol, lesser need for verbalisation or rather words dont assault me in the way they usually do (think feeling after an hour of meditation).
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I have tried lisuride. Can't say I notice much but I've been taking it infrequently. I love cypro for sleep, profound anti-cortisol effect for me.
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@thyroidchor27 You talk about this stuff as if you have these stats up like in a video game. You don't know any of this. Humble yourself. It`s perceive think act, not 'guess, bloviate, post'
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@peatolish ask @onliest . Lisuride seems to be better than Bromo
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Ergot derivatives > tricyclic/tetracyclic compounds.
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@peatolish Not sure on a bromo source. Lisuride is a similar chemical and available on idealabs. If I were you I would be very wary of taking metformin. I'd try aspirin + niacinamide first.
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i think haidut had an post which he says bromo is anti-fibrotic and anti-serotonin at lower doses, he also said .8mg dose bromo gave all the benefits of a high doses, so no need to go anymore than .8mg. also bromo over 1mg gives me stuffy nose no matter what which ruins the experience. but taking 1/4 of a 2.5mg tablet which is .625mg does not cause the stuffy nose and i still feel its high dopamine effects. i think ray said to not run bromo for more than a few weeks but maybe he was taking about standard 2.5mg/day dosing.
you coukd probably cycle low dose ~.5mg bromo 3 weeks on 1 week off. maybe taking super small dose ~.25mg cypro would help in addition. -
@Chud yea it also gives me uncontrollable libido after 2 mg to the point it becomes uncomfortable/ cant focus on normal tasks.
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Could be effects of lowering prolactin and raising dopamine.
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@Chud the problem with the stuffy nose is SO real. Do you know the explanation for this? I had the nose blocking effects from 1.25mg, half a tablet.
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approximate low dose LSD seemed to have the same results
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Bromocriptine gets the job done, but like cabergoline, I've always been concerned about the agonist activity at 5-ht2b. Which can have potentially adverse effects on the cardiovascular system. The one saving grace to this is generally people won't be on either of the meds for long-term. So in hindsight the issues are mostly null and void. But that's why I like lisuride so much, since it doesn't have the same agonist activity at that receptor. Making it more suitable for long-term usage for people who may be trying to shrink a pituitary tumor. Unfortunately it seems next to impossible to acquire outside of Haidut's idealabs. Hope he never quits selling it. I wished someone else had a line or source on some lisuride. I hate only having one source to get something, you never know when they might discontinue the product.
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