Glucose loading cures everything?
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@the_black_jew said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@S-Holmes watch out for choline overload with nicotine and mitolipin together
I would like to read more about this. Any links you can share?
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@happyhanneke said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@S-Holmes
Do you have any positive feedback from the glucose loading?Also where did you get the low dose patches? 7mg is the lowest I have seen but I would like 2 or 3 mg.
Thanks
Here is a link to the nicotine patch discussion:
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So friends. My husband and I got covid over Christmas (family member brought it with them) and true to form, I have long covid again. Husband is 95% well. My conclusion is that people with lifelong CFS/ME, even though mostly controlled, will be way more susceptible to complications than most. My post covid anxiety is back, and just as before, it peaks right at sundown. I'm able to control it using magnesium and Mexicola if I take them 10 or 15 minutes before the sun sets. If I forget, I go ahead and take them but will have to sit or lie down for a while until they take effect.
We're still using dextrose, but in small amounts. Again, my husband responds to it really well and I make sure his bottle of lemon/glucose water is full when he is in a stressful situation or has to do any public speaking. I feel like it helps me but I wouldn't say it has cured my chonic conditions.
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@S-Holmes sorry to hear you got covid again. One can take a long time to recover after it, so you might see a clearing after a while, but very wise to do extreme rest for now. I think it's smart to approach covid the way one would mono, so take it easy for at least three months. Hope you get better soon!
Do you ever test for EBV? It's one of the virus' that can reacivate after covid, and if it has you might benefit from some herbs.
I'm still just doing glucose, because I want to keep it simple, but if I am gonna add something at some point olive leaf extract is high of my list. Often mentioned for EBV.
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@gentlepotato said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@S-Holmes sorry to hear you got covid again. One can take a long time to recover after it, so you might see a clearing after a while, but very wise to do extreme rest for now. I think it's smart to approach covid the way one would mono, so take it easy for at least three months. Hope you get better soon!
Do you ever test for EBV? It's one of the virus' that can reacivate after covid, and if it has you might benefit from some herbs.
I'm still just doing glucose, because I want to keep it simple, but if I am gonna add something at some point olive leaf extract is high of my list. Often mentioned for EBV.
I likely have EB or GB. I haven't been tested because what's the point? They're both autoimmune conditions and I'm already doing everything I know to do for CFS. The next thing I'm going to try is higher dose vitamin D, along with all the other things I'm already taking.
I really appreciate everyone's input. Doctors have no answers so I rely on my smart friends for information and assistance.
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@gentlepotato said:
May I ask how much you're eating, and your macros?
My diet is poor. Definitely too little protein. Are you having any specific thoughts?
In the first two months I was eating beef&lamb carnivore with then increasingly more rice for simple yet delayed carbohydrates. But I grew to dislike the fatty bits ever more and the metals as well.
It was either the high amounts of iron etc. from those months of carnivore or the glucose itself: My face skin has aged much since last year.
Unsurprisingly with the regular dextrose loading my utilization of fats is strongly inhibited:
Whenever I eat a chunk of cheese (due to protein+calcium cravings, I surmise) I don't even ever feel satiated by it and it all goes straight to weight gain in fat deposits.Probably the best way to eat with the dextrose would be like a bodybuilder's diet: Rice as complementary carbs, rich greens for the fibres, the vitamins, the calcium and lean poultry for protein. Along with a lowly dosed (100-200% RDI) B+C complex. Along with potassium chloride or potassium sulfate or a mix thereof in amounts according to taste.
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@CrumblingCookie Thank you for sharing this. It is encouraging to hear the help that dextrose has provided even if there are more improvements to be had. Thank you for taking the time to detail it for us and best of luck in your continued experimenting.
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@CrumblingCookie said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@S-Holmes said:
The next thing I'm going to try is higher dose vitamin D
Don't. It's a trap.
Oh no! Why? I took 50,000 IU's on Saturday, 40,000 on Sunday, 30,000 today, with plenty of magnesium and vit K. Feeling a lot better so far. I'll probably go on a winter maintenance dose of about 10,000 IU a day.
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The immunological shift from those 120.000 IUs will last for several months. It's kind of like parts of your building are on fire and you turn off the annoying sprinklers and alarm bell so you can move back in and redecorate the unaffected offices and corridors. Which you can keep up with such high doses but woe upon you when you stop. Or anyway over the course of time.
By showing strong immidiate short-term benefits you have essentially confirmed the magnitude of chronic inflammation from persistent infections acting out within your tissues.
@jjk_learning Thanks. It's rough.