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    • MauritioM
      Mauritio
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      "SIRT3 reduced the expression of stearoyl-CoA desaturase 1..."

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31160717/

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      • MauritioM
        Mauritio
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        No study but isn't it interesting that
        Guggulsterone (C21H28O2) and
        Pregnenolone (C21H32O2) are almost the same molecules.
        That explains their similar effects.

        Z-Guggulsterone alleviates renal fibrosis by mitigating G2/M cycle arrest through Klotho/p53 signaling
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35123992/

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        • alfredoolivasA
          alfredoolivas @Mauritio
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          @Mauritio can you explain the similarities? cfcdd832-5a1e-4ec5-914d-39a26e32524b-image.png
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          They seem very different in their structure to me

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          • MauritioM
            Mauritio @alfredoolivas
            last edited by

            @alfredoolivas The backbone is very similar not sure how to explain that to you

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            • MauritioM
              Mauritio
              last edited by Mauritio

              High salt diet induces muscle loss via cortisol, if simultaneously given saline Solution, not if rats were given tap water.Maybe there's a Sweet Spot for Salt.
              https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5409074/

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              • B
                bot-mod @Mauritio
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                A sweet spot, a circadian and an infradian. I'll be lucky if I can get there a few times a week because it's a moving target. Unless I do nothing, say nothing, go nowhere and see no one.

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                • MauritioM
                  Mauritio
                  last edited by Mauritio

                  Dates (polyphenols) activate FXR and modulate bile acids.
                  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5749773/

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                  • MauritioM
                    Mauritio
                    last edited by Mauritio

                    Chlorogenic Acid Inhibits Lipid Deposition by Regulating the Enterohepatic FXR-FGF15 Pathway
                    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35257010/

                    Chlorogenic acid fed mice increase less in weight than controls mice on a high fat diet. AND weigh less than animals on a normal control diet.
                    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20064576/

                    Might inhibit Mao a+b
                    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29893510/

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                    • daposeD
                      dapose
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                      I like this thread.
                      Thank you

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                      • MauritioM
                        Mauritio @dapose
                        last edited by

                        @dapose you're welcome.

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                        • MauritioM
                          Mauritio
                          last edited by Mauritio

                          Magnesium Sulphate for "stuck bile" I cholestasis

                          "Taken together, the results of this study suggest that MgSO4 treatment may be beneficial in cholestasis-induced hepatotoxicity."
                          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25967882/

                          "Mg SO4 may increase bile secretion and relax the sphincter Of Oddi, resulting in emptying and consequently a reduction of Gallbladder volume"
                          https://journals.lww.com/ajg/fulltext/2004/10001/the_effect_of_magnesium_sulfate_on_the_human.140.aspx

                          It increases the discharge of bile
                          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/955499/

                          i was thinking maybe topical application of magnesium sulfate to relax the sphincter of oddi muscle and to increase bile discharge.

                          596da1a1-f0b2-4029-a67d-be7ee3b0cd11-17365973310072473217368389128298.jpg

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                          • MauritioM
                            Mauritio
                            last edited by Mauritio

                            3,8-Dihydrodiligustilide
                            Strong phytoprogestogen.
                            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/3,8-Dihydrodiligustilide

                            It has almost the same potency as progesterone (80% of it). And it has no estrogenic or anti-androgenic effects.

                            "EtOH extracts of the dried rhizome of L. chuanxiong demonstrated strongest
                            progestogenic activity, reaching 80% of that observed with progesterone (100 nM) and had an EC50 of 8 lg/ml (Fig. 1b). The bioactivity of L. chuanxiong extract was spe-
                            cific to the PR, and the extract was at least 200-fold less active on other related members of the steroid receptor family like androgen, estrogen and glucocorticoid receptors."

                            https://www.sci-hub.wf/10.1016/j.phytochem.2006.01.024

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                            • MauritioM
                              Mauritio
                              last edited by Mauritio

                              EDIT: Bloodroot might bin very well to the progesterone receptor but not agonize it.

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                              https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.3181/00379727-217-44247

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                              • MauritioM
                                Mauritio
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                                Dates, olives and walnuts contain the highest amounts of the phytoprogestogen syringic acid.

                                http://phenol-explorer.eu/contents/polyphenol/420

                                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9704030/

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                                • MauritioM
                                  Mauritio @Mauritio
                                  last edited by

                                  @Mauritio said in Random, interesting studies:

                                  3,8-Dihydrodiligustilide
                                  Strong phytoprogestogen.
                                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/3,8-Dihydrodiligustilide

                                  It has almost the same potency as progesterone (80% of it). And it has no estrogenic or anti-androgenic effects.

                                  "EtOH extracts of the dried rhizome of L. chuanxiong demonstrated strongest
                                  progestogenic activity, reaching 80% of that observed with progesterone (100 nM) and had an EC50 of 8 lg/ml (Fig. 1b). The bioactivity of L. chuanxiong extract was spe-
                                  cific to the PR, and the extract was at least 200-fold less active on other related members of the steroid receptor family like androgen, estrogen and glucocorticoid receptors."

                                  https://www.sci-hub.wf/10.1016/j.phytochem.2006.01.024

                                  The plant Ligusticum sinense chuanxiong from which it is extracted is traditionally used to treat uterus issues. It also has been studied to treat strokes and Parkinson's.

                                  In this review they look at the anti inflammatory effect of it.

                                  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7591981/

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                                  • MauritioM
                                    Mauritio @Mauritio
                                    last edited by Mauritio

                                    @Mauritio said in Random, interesting studies:

                                    @Mauritio said in Random, interesting studies:

                                    3,8-Dihydrodiligustilide
                                    Strong phytoprogestogen.
                                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/3,8-Dihydrodiligustilide

                                    It has almost the same potency as progesterone (80% of it). And it has no estrogenic or anti-androgenic effects.

                                    "EtOH extracts of the dried rhizome of L. chuanxiong demonstrated strongest
                                    progestogenic activity, reaching 80% of that observed with progesterone (100 nM) and had an EC50 of 8 lg/ml (Fig. 1b). The bioactivity of L. chuanxiong extract was spe-
                                    cific to the PR, and the extract was at least 200-fold less active on other related members of the steroid receptor family like androgen, estrogen and glucocorticoid receptors."

                                    https://www.sci-hub.wf/10.1016/j.phytochem.2006.01.024

                                    The plant Ligusticum sinense chuanxiong from which it is extracted is traditionally used to treat uterus issues. It also has been studied to treat strokes and Parkinson's.

                                    In this review they look at the anti inflammatory effect of it.

                                    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7591981/

                                    HED about 20g of the extract.
                                    "Effect-time studies indicate that injection of MPA and L. chuanxiong extract raised area-under-curve of progestogenic activity in sera by 8.2-fold (p<0.001) and 4.5-fold (p<0.01) respectively, compared to sera from rats administered vehicle only. Administration of MPA and L. chuanxiong extract by the oral route resulted in a 5.4 (p<0.001) and 2.3-fold (p=0.07) increase respectively. Our data suggest that PR-responsive reporter gene bioassays can measure bioavailability of compounds, known and unknown, of complex botanicals for hormone replacement therapy. L. chuanxiong extracts exert progestogenic activity in vivo, and may have utility for progesterone-replacement therapy."

                                    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16650443/

                                    good review on it
                                    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.3109/13880209.2011.576346#d1e665

                                    HED = 850mg of the extract.
                                    L. Chuanxiong completely prevented weight gain on a high fat diet. It increases antioxidants and cholesterol conversion into bile acids. Genes related to steroid biosynthesis were also upregulated so I guess that was another way it lowered cholesterol.
                                    https://iadns.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/fft2.249

                                    Protective Effect of SFE-CO2 of Ligusticum chuanxiong Hort Against d-Galactose-Induced Injury in the Mouse Liver and Kidney
                                    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28056664/

                                    Chuanxiong Rhizoma extracts prevent cholestatic liver injury by targeting H3K9ac-mediated
                                    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37777319/

                                    Chuanxiong Rhizoma extracts prevent liver fibrosis via targeting CTCF-c-MYC-H19 pathway
                                    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38375042/

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                                    • MauritioM
                                      Mauritio
                                      last edited by Mauritio

                                      "PO [Peppermint oil ]significantly promoted bile and bile acid secretion in rats. It also increased bile acid efflux and decreased cholesterol levels (Pā€ƒ<ā€ƒ0.01) in bile. In HepG2 cells the mRNA levels of CYP7A1 and FXR were significantly upregulated after treatment with PO."
                                      https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1751-2980.2011.00513.x?utm_source=chatgpt.com

                                      Menthol + Menthone seem to have a dopaminergic effect
                                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18718482-/
                                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12686756/

                                      Menthol has some overlapping effects with progesterone as per this study
                                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/13819868/
                                      It also acts as an anaesthetic like progesterone
                                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11301871/

                                      Mode of action of peppermint oil and (-)-menthol with respect to 5-HT3 receptor
                                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21077259/

                                      "...menthol acts as a noncompetitive antagonist of the 5-HT3 receptor..."
                                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23965380/

                                      Menthol decreased milk production ,which hints at an anti prolactin effect and it inhibits mTOR.
                                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33188562/

                                      Anti-leukemic effect of menthol, a peppermint compound, on induction of apoptosis and autophagy
                                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36923503/

                                      I'd say given these studies, it's worth to try peppermint oil, which can consist of up to 80% menthol + Menthone.

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                                      • alfredoolivasA
                                        alfredoolivas @Mauritio
                                        last edited by alfredoolivas

                                        @Mauritio Menthol, Camphor, Menthone and Eucalyptus, all are terpenoids known for their "cooling" effect, and are completely saturated- Camphor and Eucalyptus are even saturated cages, similar to Adamantane. Very interesting to me.
                                        I would love to see if their is some overlap in their origin, structure or effects

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                                        • MauritioM
                                          Mauritio @alfredoolivas
                                          last edited by Mauritio

                                          @alfredoolivas yeah very interesting!
                                          Look at the progesterone like effect of the studies I just edited in.
                                          If they are indeed saturated molecules that makes an estrogenic effect even less likely .

                                          Btw trump just brought back menthol cigarettes , so that's good timing 😁

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                                          • alfredoolivasA
                                            alfredoolivas @Mauritio
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                                            @Mauritio Peppermint oil is 30-50% menthol, 15-30% menthone and 5-10% eucalyptol. So peppermint oil could be a vehicle to deliver these substances.

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