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    • LejebocaL
      Lejeboca
      last edited by Lejeboca

      Topical Oxidized Vitamin C (DHA) permeates through skin 12x faster than ascorbic acid.

      Even though the human study below is from a company that produced the product with DHA, it seems to be very carefully done with practical considerations.

      Topical Dehydroascorbic Acid (Oxidized Vitamin C) Permeates Stratum Corneum More Rapidly Than Ascorbic Acid

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      • MauritioM
        Mauritio @Lejeboca
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        @Lejeboca yes I saw that one too but hadn't clicked on it. Thanks for sharing.

        Dare to think.

        My X:
        x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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        • MauritioM
          Mauritio
          last edited by

          Sorbitol

          I'd be careful with sorbitol. The issue with sorbitol is that it is often made with a nickel catalyst, which leaches into the endproduct.

          " The Cr/Fe promoted system exhibits the highest activity but the Fe leaches from the catalyst into the reaction mixture. Moreover, this catalyst deactivates after successive runs. For all Raney-type Ni catalysts leaching of Ni in the product mixture occurs."
          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0920586103000403?via%3Dihub

          Although Ray said a little is ok:

          Post 28 Title: Bryan · Feb 4, 2013 at 5:00 PM Author: Bryan Post Content:

          Me: Is sorbitol o.k. to eat? I got some gummy bears that have it in them.

          Peat: A little is o.k.

          Dare to think.

          My X:
          x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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          • MauritioM
            Mauritio
            last edited by Mauritio

            Papaya/Papain

            Papain reverses the effects of a high fat diet in mice. The mice getting Papain, did not gain more weight than the mice on a normal control diet.
            Papain even lowered visceral fat content slightly below the control group.
            It lowered liver enzymes, triglycerides, adipogenic and inflammatory Markers.
            It also drastically upregulated AMPK, similarly to aspirin, biotin or infrared light.

            https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8468764/

            Potent Fibrinolytic, Anticoagulant, and Antithrombotic Effects of Papain
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38069092/

            Lowers the number of mast cells and inflammatory cytokines
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39199175/

            Papain has anti-artherosclerotic effect. Lowers COX-2, PGE2 and other cytokines.
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36947095/

            Papaya extract increases testosterone and sperm health, damaged by alcohol.
            https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7099107/#Sec17

            Dare to think.

            My X:
            x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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            • MauritioM
              Mauritio
              last edited by

              Oyster peptides increase testosterone
              https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10563733/

              Dare to think.

              My X:
              x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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              • alfredoolivasA
                alfredoolivas @Mauritio
                last edited by

                @Mauritio Seems to be an affordable experiment to try: a kg costs only 90 dollars

                https://enzymes.bio/product/papain-200000-u-g-food-grade-biological-enzyme/

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                • MauritioM
                  Mauritio @alfredoolivas
                  last edited by

                  @alfredoolivas why would you want a KG of it to experiment with it ??

                  Dare to think.

                  My X:
                  x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                  • alfredoolivasA
                    alfredoolivas @Mauritio
                    last edited by alfredoolivas

                    @Mauritio I don't want to experiment with it, I was just pointing it out because

                    1.) Animal studies often use large doses, that aren't feasable with dosages found in OTC supplements
                    2.) Raw materials are rarely food / USP grade, and this was food grade. They also can be expensive and not sold to private individuals.

                    So I was letting you know about it, incase you wanted to try it.

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                    • lobotomizeL
                      lobotomize @alfredoolivas
                      last edited by lobotomize

                      @alfredoolivas tried to buy lactase from them. They list a goverment building as their site of operations. Probably a scam website. Fucking hate eu chem restrictions

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                      • alfredoolivasA
                        alfredoolivas @lobotomize
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                        @lobotomize Good detective work 👍

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                          CrumblingCookie @Mauritio
                          last edited by CrumblingCookie

                          @Mauritio said in Random, interesting studies:

                          Papain even lowered visceral fat content slightly below the control group.
                          It lowered liver enzymes, triglycerides, adipogenic and inflammatory Markers.
                          It also drastically upregulated AMPK, similarly to aspirin, biotin or infrared light.

                          https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8468764/

                          Nice find. It lowers PPARγ (decreased lipogenesis). By the looks of it increasing CaMKK, LKB1, Sirt1 (which of course are all in reciprocal interaction with AMPK) it probably also works via enhanced degradation of intracellular lipid droplet accumulations, i.e. more lipophagy/autophagy.
                          Bookmarked for later.

                          Edit: Papain's bound to be biphasic, though, with sub-baseline inhibition past an initial bell curve: Intraarticular injection of papain is how they experimentally induce osteoarthritis and that seems to last beyond immediate enzymatic effects.
                          And with coronaviruses they describe papain-like proteases being responsible for profound lipophagy/autophagy inhibition.
                          -> Mechanism of action for the positive findings unclear.
                          Hormetic stimulation at small doses in healthy animals/tissues/circumstances?
                          Although the beneficial doses about 10mg/mL (ie c. 1% concentration) in the study above are not particularly small at all?

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                          • sunsunsunS
                            sunsunsun @CrumblingCookie
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                            fwiw @Mauritio I dont read your twitter stuff because twitter is le gay and doesn't let me scroll properly without an account which requires a phone number and etc etc which is super gehy so maybe you can post ur stuff on a substack or smth idk whatever

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                            • MauritioM
                              Mauritio @CrumblingCookie
                              last edited by Mauritio

                              @CrumblingCookie thanks for sharing.
                              Isn't that because it's a protease, so in sufficient amounts it would digest the protein/cartilage there ?
                              I think some people report stomach issues when eating too much papaya/papain but only after some time. Maybe it has a similar effect on the intestines.
                              Viruses need proteases to multiply, so it could have a pro-viral effect ?

                              Also anybody: don't eat the seeds. It's touted as an anti-mircrobial, but it also messes with your hormones . I tried it and didn't feel well for 2 days.
                              It do like papaya and it seemes to help with constipation/cholestasis.
                              Next I'll try papain.

                              Dare to think.

                              My X:
                              x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                              • sunsunsunS
                                sunsunsun @Mauritio
                                last edited by sunsunsun

                                this nigga ate a couple papaya seeds and was ill for two days

                                reminds me of this quote:

                                All men have a fire that burns inside of them.
                                For some it's a fierce flame, the sort that burn 3000kcal a day just by existing.
                                Men with these flames are the true gigachads, the ones who can enjoy life to the fullest. Everything comes free to them, unlimited energy, great looks, physical prowess, big dicks, charisma, innate skill, vigor, optimism, wealth, opportunity of all kinds etc.
                                These men are what all men want to be, but sadly most never get to experience such a life.

                                For most men have weak little flames, the ones that burn very frugally. They don't consume much energy which is why they're prone to becoming skinnyfat. Thin little limbs and a big round belly that retains fuel forever since so little is used in a day.
                                The permanent "survival mode", born out of inner fear. Peasant genetics really. These men will commonly try to better their lives but they find it's a very steep climb. "I'm trying but I just got no energy" they'll say. They're always tired, always feeling ill, always apathetic towards everything.
                                It's obvious to all bystanders and it instinctively repulses them as lepers do. Women want nothing to do with these hollow husks of men, those who cannot enjoy life.
                                They're not interested in a smart guy who will live life as efficiently as possible, they want a wild card who isn't afraid of anything. The sort of guy who thinks "New York, sounds like fun!" rather than snorting and citing crime statistics.

                                Basically, the reason why many women like n****rs is because their flames burn a little stronger than the average civilized man's does.
                                They're not scared of doing what they like, they're going outside and interacting with the world rather than cooping up indoors and observing life from a safe distance.

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                                • MauritioM
                                  Mauritio @sunsunsun
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                                  @sunsunsun my posts aren't super organized. I post some stuff here, some stuff on X, a lot of stuff on both.
                                  But I was thinking about making a substack, because X users don't seem to be willing to read more than 2 sentences.

                                  Dare to think.

                                  My X:
                                  x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                  • LucHL
                                    LucH @Mauritio
                                    last edited by

                                    @Mauritio said in Random, interesting studies:

                                    But I was thinking about making a substack, because X users don't seem to be willing to read more than 2 sentences.

                                    Ya, when very interesting, I suggest to give a highlight with max 5 lines. Just to see if it's pertinent for the reader.

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                                    • sunsunsunS
                                      sunsunsun @Mauritio
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                                      @Mauritio yes I will read ur substack preferably over X and it is a lot easier to look up your articles than searching tweets . I look forward to it

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                                        Corngold @sunsunsun
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                                        @sunsunsun said in Random, interesting studies:

                                        They're not scared of doing what they like, they're going outside and interacting with the world rather than cooping up indoors and observing life from a safe distance.

                                        is niggamaxing the new thing!? because wiggers weren't very popular back in the 90s and '00s.

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                                          user2 @Corngold
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                                          @Corngold said in Random, interesting studies:

                                          @sunsunsun said in Random, interesting studies:

                                          They're not scared of doing what they like, they're going outside and interacting with the world rather than cooping up indoors and observing life from a safe distance.

                                          is niggamaxing the new thing!? because wiggers weren't very popular back in the 90s and '00s.

                                          @sunsunsun @Corngold jack cruz claimed that one of the main reasons they increased emf exposure that much on population scale, was to get to black people, as blue light was effective to influence white people behaviors but not effective on black due to melanin blocking it, therefore black people were less prone to manipulation, and emf solved it for the most part. All jack cruz claim

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                                            Corngold @user2
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                                            @user2 🤣🤣 wow. Sounds legit.

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