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    A Former User
    last edited by A Former User Feb 25, 2025, 12:56 AM Feb 25, 2025, 12:54 AM

    high energy, positive books written by chads
    im not interested in low energy cuck philosophy by beta authors
    any genre
    i started wheel of time and actually stopped 50 pages into the first book and will be destroying the copy i have, the author was clearly hypo when writing this plodding mess with 30 characters to keep track of
    i read crime and punishment a cpl years ago and honestly mostly forgot it, it seems boring

    i havent read it in awhile but fondly remember g k chesterton’s the man who was thursday. really interesting

    there are plenty of not well known books especially written for school age peeps which i recall fondly — whenever i read some lauded classic or contemporary work it is usually super gay and dissapointing. i spent like $50 on a paper copy of House of Leaves, and it’s honestly pathetic. id like a refund, realistically. i might just read books marketed towards young adults tbh. this search for high culture reccomendations is usually dissapointing

    i mostly read academic textbooks on economics math and sometimes history now. but fiction books that are high energy im looking for

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      Insr
      last edited by Insr Feb 25, 2025, 4:34 AM Feb 25, 2025, 3:24 AM

      PG Wodehouse
      James Herriot
      Swallows and Amazons
      The Horatio Hornblower books (a little bit annoyingly modern and introspective at times but good otherwise)
      CS Lewis - Narnia, the Space Trilogy, and a bunch of philosophy/religion ones (the Screwtape Letters and Mere Christianity are well known. The Discarded Image is very cool)
      The Lord of the Rings, also read Tolkein's other works if you like (On Fairy Stories is good stuff)
      E. Nesbit
      Louis L'Amour (also a little annoyingly cynical and modern here and there but it's good on the whole)
      Robert Louis Stevenson
      Showell Styles
      The Virginian
      Paddington (the original books)
      Winnie the Pooh (the original, not the Disney version)
      The Hardy Boys (why not? don't get the modern versions, go for the 50's ones)
      The Secret Garden (slightly strange but whatever)
      Little Lord Fauntleroy
      The Incredible Journey
      The "Little House on the Prairie" books
      Stuart Little
      Penrod, by Booth Tarkington (make sure to get the original as it has probably been censored recently) - and there's at least one sequel too.
      The John Carter of Mars books by Edgar Rice Burroughs for strange sci-fi pulp fiction from the early 20th century
      Holling Clancy Holling's beautiful and interesting books: Paddle to the Sea, Minn of the Mississippi, Pagoo, Tree in the Trail, Seabird, The Book of Cowboys, The Book of Indians.
      "The War in the Air: The Royal Air Force in World War II" - this is a great anthology containing many accounts of WW2 action by the men involved, men who weren't lame like today! You could find lots of other books from the snippets quoted in here.
      Why not read some old stuff for real power? Arthurian Romances by Chretien de Troyes, Gawain and the Green Knight (Tolkein's translation of it is good), Beowulf, The Iliad, The Odyssey, The Aeneid. Be sure to get good translations, the modern ones can be absolutely terrible.
      And if you like GK Chesterton, he wrote an enormous amount - there's lots more! (most of which I have not read) You may also like Hilaire Belloc, his friend

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        jamezb46 @A Former User
        last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 3:39 AM

        @sushi_is_cringe

        If you want to understand Western philosophy

        The World as Will and Representation - Schopenhauer (written when he was about 26)

        In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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          A Former User @Insr
          last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 4:16 AM

          @Insr thx much appreciated . I think I have hardy boys books . that's a nice list.

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            A Former User @jamezb46
            last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 4:17 AM

            @jamezb46 wasn't schaupenhoer an incel tho?

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              Corngold @A Former User
              last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 4:26 AM

              @sushi_is_cringe said in peaty books:

              but fiction books that are high energy im looking for

              I think "high energy fiction books" is an oxymoron. What do you mean by high energy?
              here is some fiction that energized my mind or body:

              Bolaño
              Borges
              John K. Toole
              Cervantes
              Cortazar
              Gaddis
              Guyotat
              Lautremont
              Strindberg
              Huysmans
              Lovecraft
              Poe
              Philip K Dick
              Celine
              D'Annunzio
              Pessoa
              Kafka

              some poets:

              James Wright
              Pound
              Eliot
              Yeats
              Rilke
              Pavese
              Nerval
              Huidobro
              Trakl
              Jorge Tellier
              Novalis
              Blake
              Dante
              Bertran de Born
              Leopardi

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                A Former User @Corngold
                last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 5:43 AM

                @Corngold I simply mean stuff not written by/for cucks

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                  A Former User @A Former User
                  last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 2:56 PM

                  @sushi_is_cringe I don't know what a chad is but Underworld by Don Delillio is incredible. White Noise is great too.

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                    Corngold @Corngold
                    last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 4:42 PM

                    @Corngold
                    define cuck sushi.
                    if you want to go that route all literature is written by "cucks." Bolaño writes about this in a funny way. His books are hilarious but also very disturbing. Read Hemingway, he was a real manly man. Deep sea fishing, bull-fighting, drinking and dressing in drag. Very old school military type of writer. Psychological wreck. Read Faulkner. But most of all if you think most writers are cucks you should probably stop reading and do something real.

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                      Corngold @A Former User
                      last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 4:45 PM

                      @sushi_is_cringe
                      DeLillo is super cucked. Read End Zone.
                      Blatantly homoerotic. White Noise is also complete pulp. He regurgitates the same propaganda he appears to criticize. Very uh... Frankfurt School / Marcuse / Baudrillard-esque semitic fakery and kitsch.

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                        Corngold @A Former User
                        last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 4:47 PM

                        @sushi_is_cringe
                        Schopenhauer was an incel and essentially a neoliberal xenophile.

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                          Luke
                          last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 5:21 PM

                          I don't know. Maybe: Ray Peat - Generative Energy?

                          I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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                            Corngold @Luke
                            last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 5:28 PM

                            @Luke
                            He wants fiction. Is Peat fiction?
                            I think he should read Henry Miller 😁

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                              Milk Destroyer
                              last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 7:22 PM

                              I have these 3 on my list after hearing Ray talk about them in regards to things that sounded interesting:

                              https://archive.org/details/the-new-paradigm-bockris/ Ray mentioned this book when talking about "evidence of an afterlife".

                              https://archive.org/details/synchronicitybri00peat Stories about Synchronocity.

                              https://archive.org/details/themurderofchrist/ Ray said this book gives example of communism's relation to early Christian ideas.

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                                A Former User @Corngold
                                last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 10:28 PM

                                @Corngold basically low energy doomer is all i can think of to describe cuckishness

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                                  jamezb46 @A Former User
                                  last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 11:40 PM

                                  @sushi_is_cringe

                                  I don’t think he was an “incel”

                                  He was highly intelligent, and is actually famous for having a high sex drive that influenced his philosophy. He probably had extramarital sex, though.

                                  In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                                    jamezb46 @Corngold
                                    last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 11:42 PM

                                    @Corngold

                                    Have you read Schopenhauer? Have you read his On the four-fold root of sufficient reason? Have you read his critique of Kant? Or are you just parroting what others who don’t actually read the source material say about it?

                                    In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                                      Corngold @jamezb46
                                      last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 11:54 PM

                                      @jamezb46

                                      You can read the source all you want. Just like in art, nothing in philosophy is original. Was he just parroting the four-fold path of Buddhism? Maybe Jung has more to say on this. Philosophy is as an art and an activity. Besides the pre-Socratics, Wittgenstein is really the only one who "awakened" anything of consequence for me. A lot of modern philosophers (post-Renaissance) are basically playing the role of sociologists or psychologists. Understanding man in society, or, the mind in man. Yes, it's both but none of this is new.

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                                        Corngold @A Former User
                                        last edited by Feb 25, 2025, 11:58 PM

                                        @sushi_is_cringe said in peaty books:

                                        basically low energy doomer is all i can think of to describe cuckishness

                                        I don't know Sushi, sitting down and writing is basically hermitic - it's recoiling from life. Vitality entering the pen instead of the phallus, right? The "vitalist" or high energy non-doomer "writer" is one who does not write.
                                        But in all honesty you should consider reading fiction from any of the fiction authors I mentioned. I don't read fiction very much anymore - I think we will agree that Peat has shown how much fiction exists within "non-fiction," science, and academic work.

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                                          A Former User @Corngold
                                          last edited by Feb 26, 2025, 3:43 AM

                                          @Corngold ok thanks

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