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    • KorvenK
      Korven @jamezb46
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      @jamezb46 Thank you that makes sense - does nicotine boost NAD+ levels? Or does cigarettes contain small amounts of nicotinamide?

      This could be a very good experiment to run before going all in on cigarettes , I will check if I have some niacinamide left in my supplement pile.

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      • DavidPSD
        DavidPS @Korven
        last edited by DavidPS

        @Korven This twitter post is focused on the science of the effects of nicotine. Stay away from cigarette smoke.

        https://x.com/Outdoctrination/status/1897764464499605823

        You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. 👀
        ☂️

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        • AnicieteA
          Aniciete
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          I’ve never noticed a “cognitive” boost from smoking. I simply just want a buzz . I can start off by smoking 1 hand rolled cig a day but after a week I am already thinking about smoking as soon as I wake up.

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            Corngold @Korven
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            @Korven
            Temporary. Long term effects are not good.

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            • alfredoolivasA
              alfredoolivas @Korven
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              @Korven It’s likely that you just want the dopamine.

              If a “normie” ex-smoker was in your situation, and wanted to have a cigarette, would you think his body desires the nutrients, NAD boost etc of smoking or does he just desire the pleasure of smoking a cigarette?

              The latter makes much more sense, smoke a cigarette if you choose to do so, but let’s not cover it up with some fancy biochemical reasoning.

              Smoking is pleasurable and that’s a large reason it’s desirable, and why people quitting cigarettes return to cigarettes, even though they are getting way more nicotine at steadier concentrations, through gum and patches

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              • alfredoolivasA
                alfredoolivas @A Former User
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                @sushi_is_cringe high risk high reward.

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                  gg12 @Korven
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                  @Korven this is how I feel about coffee

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                    teenus @Korven
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                    @Korven The last few times I've craved cigarettes over the last year or two I've come down with a cold shortly afterwards. Not sure if that means anything

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                    • jamezb46J
                      jamezb46 @Korven
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                      @Korven

                      They contain nicotine, which is converted to niacinamide in the body. Since niacinamide raises NAD+ levels, nicotine should too.

                      In fact, I found a study purporting to show just that.

                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36797299/

                      In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                        Corngold @gg12
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                        @gg12 I think coffee is far superior and safer! I love both but I really don't like cigarettes and all the chemical shit in them. Even american spirits are probably pretty zogged.

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                        • jamezb46J
                          jamezb46 @Corngold
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                          @Corngold

                          You are correct. All cigarettes are required by law to contain flame retardants. You want to be inhaling flame retardants? BIG NO

                          In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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