I have intense cravings for cigarettes
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@Korven nostalgia and such. It never did me much good to go back to it, or even cigars.
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@Korven it's because tobacco is unironically based.
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Maybe your body wants the NAD+ boost.
So maybe Niacinamide would work. Actually the combination of 250-500 mg niacinamide with 3-5 mg methylene blue should be really potent at increasing NAD+/NADH ratio.
So, if after doing that for a few days, you don't have the cravings, you might have satisfied a physiological desire.
On the other hand, you could try nicotine in its pure form. One company that make products with it is:
In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life
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@Corngold Hmmm so you didn't get any wellbeing/dopamine effects at all from cigarettes? What were the negatives you notice from smoking?
What is interesting to me is that I have never smoked regularly, maybe only a few times per year. But now all of a sudden I have these cigarette cravings
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@sushi_is_cringe maybe you are correct, the idea of smoking cigs just "feel right" to me, I can't really explain it better. Many people that smoke have good vibes and maybe thats was I am after...
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@jamezb46 Thank you that makes sense - does nicotine boost NAD+ levels? Or does cigarettes contain small amounts of nicotinamide?
This could be a very good experiment to run before going all in on cigarettes , I will check if I have some niacinamide left in my supplement pile.
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@Korven This twitter post is focused on the science of the effects of nicotine. Stay away from cigarette smoke.
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I’ve never noticed a “cognitive” boost from smoking. I simply just want a buzz . I can start off by smoking 1 hand rolled cig a day but after a week I am already thinking about smoking as soon as I wake up.
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@Korven It’s likely that you just want the dopamine.
If a “normie” ex-smoker was in your situation, and wanted to have a cigarette, would you think his body desires the nutrients, NAD boost etc of smoking or does he just desire the pleasure of smoking a cigarette?
The latter makes much more sense, smoke a cigarette if you choose to do so, but let’s not cover it up with some fancy biochemical reasoning.
Smoking is pleasurable and that’s a large reason it’s desirable, and why people quitting cigarettes return to cigarettes, even though they are getting way more nicotine at steadier concentrations, through gum and patches
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@sushi_is_cringe high risk high reward.
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@Korven this is how I feel about coffee
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@Korven The last few times I've craved cigarettes over the last year or two I've come down with a cold shortly afterwards. Not sure if that means anything
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They contain nicotine, which is converted to niacinamide in the body. Since niacinamide raises NAD+ levels, nicotine should too.
In fact, I found a study purporting to show just that.
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@gg12 I think coffee is far superior and safer! I love both but I really don't like cigarettes and all the chemical shit in them. Even american spirits are probably pretty zogged.
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You are correct. All cigarettes are required by law to contain flame retardants. You want to be inhaling flame retardants? BIG NO
