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Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?

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    Corngold @Ponder
    last edited by Corngold Apr 27, 2025, 11:49 PM Apr 27, 2025, 11:48 PM

    @Ponder said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

    ray: I think it’s a form of neurosis

    From a capitalist, and an anti-capitalist, socialist etc perspective, competition is always "bad" because it means amoral exploitation for paper money, and they always see "competition" as code for a "free market" economy.

    I generally agree with Peat, though. The most competitive people I've known seemed to feel: inadequate, weak, unloved, etc. Some of the top school athletes are also some of the worst behaved, with irresponsible/bad parents, and drugs, sex, or gambling habits.

    The question is competition within which realm?
    Hyper-competitiveness is neurosis while hypo-competitiveness is like depression / anhedonia. There has to be some give and take, so it's inaccurate to say it is neurotic to receive pleasure from a stimulating activity, let's just say of a constructive sort, like academics or research, music, engineering, or something. Whether or not any of these things have progressed because of competition is a good question. I suspect it's the peak area of the inverted-U curve here, where stimulation and play are highest, in between anhedonia and cut-throat neurosis.

    @Ponder said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

    ray: I think the abstract nature of games makes them potentially harmful, addictive.

    Philosophy and basically all language, poetry, writing, mathematics is filed under this one. See: Wittgenstein and also Heraclitus. I think both were obviously neurotic but their neurosis was also ironically about the neurosis of language / communication. "Language as neurosis" is a very likely reality.

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      ThinPicking @Corngold
      last edited by Apr 28, 2025, 12:31 AM

      @Corngold said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

      "Language as neurosis" is a very likely reality.

      Sounds accurate. Hopefully someone can get to the bottom of this "neurosis".

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        Ponder @Corngold
        last edited by Apr 28, 2025, 11:14 AM

        @Corngold I think he is just thinks about mutual aid and Ray hints at the part about abstraction because he has critiqued abstract art and now I realize he probably doesn't like abstraction and would need to look more into his thoughts on abstraction.

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          natureman @herenow
          last edited by May 4, 2025, 6:45 PM

          @herenow

          There was a woman who couldn't get pregnant that came to his practice for help. He lend her his cardigan and the pheromones on his clothing alone was enough to make a seemingly infertile woman ovulate.

          Can't think of anything more androgenic than that.

          Most peoples idea of what is "manly" or "macho" are behaviours driven by estrogen (fighting, etc.).

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            A Former User @natureman
            last edited by May 4, 2025, 6:53 PM

            @natureman said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

            @herenow

            There was a woman who couldn't get pregnant that came to his practice for help. He lend her his cardigan and the pheromones on his clothing alone was enough to make a seemingly infertile woman ovulate.

            Can't think of anything more androgenic than that.

            Most peoples idea of what is "manly" or "macho" are behaviours driven by estrogen (fighting, etc.).

            Whever or not fighting is driven by estrogen doesnt make it more or less manly. The cardigan anecdote you mentionned, "the male mouse effect" is also associated with estrogen

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              alfredoolivas @A Former User
              last edited by May 4, 2025, 8:00 PM

              @random

              @random said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

              The cardigan anecdote you mentionned, "the male mouse effect" is also associated with estrogen

              Yes, an estrogenic response to ANDROGEN derived phermones such as androstenol

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                A Former User @alfredoolivas
                last edited by A Former User May 4, 2025, 8:33 PM May 4, 2025, 8:30 PM

                @alfredoolivas said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                @random

                @random said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                The cardigan anecdote you mentionned, "the male mouse effect" is also associated with estrogen

                Yes, an estrogenic response to ANDROGEN derived phermones such as androstenol

                Tard caps unecessary.

                Screenshot_2025-05-04-22-28-39-673_com.android.chrome.jpg Screenshot_2025-05-04-22-28-23-803_com.android.chrome.jpg

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                  alfredoolivas @A Former User
                  last edited by alfredoolivas May 4, 2025, 8:45 PM May 4, 2025, 8:45 PM

                  @random Interesting. Thanks for doing the research

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                    mightycoomer
                    last edited by May 6, 2025, 1:56 PM

                    Peat was trans, his dream was to transition into a female.

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                      ThinPicking @mightycoomer
                      last edited by May 6, 2025, 2:17 PM

                      fissy.jpg

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                        tubert @herenow
                        last edited by May 6, 2025, 2:33 PM

                        @herenow Did you follow up on what he recommended by that exactly? Did he tell you how to proceed to be more androgenic?

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                          ThinPicking @tubert
                          last edited by May 6, 2025, 2:50 PM

                          Go forth and distribute cardigans.

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                            herenow @tubert
                            last edited by herenow 3 days ago May 7, 2025, 9:07 AM

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                              lobotomize-me @mightycoomer
                              last edited by May 8, 2025, 8:36 PM

                              @mightycoomer proof?

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                                ThinPicking @lobotomize-me
                                last edited by May 8, 2025, 11:27 PM

                                @lobotomize-me said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                                @mightycoomer proof?

                                She's coping.

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                                  Kilgore @ThinPicking
                                  last edited by May 8, 2025, 11:31 PM

                                  @ThinPicking "I almost got the trans surgery. But my father wouldnt pay for it."

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