Raypeat = infertility psyop?
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First point he made was citrus and juice:
OJ is questionable. I don't like it so I rarely buy or drink it. Real oranges are great, regardless of agricultural factors. It's not the sugar in OJ, it's the flavor packets (perfume industry chemicals), citric acid, preservatives, etc that are the problem.
He claims people are talking about eating whole lemons. I've never heard that in the peat-sphere, and marmalade is just the cleaned peels anyways, not the seeds. So it that's a second straw-man argument.
He talked about estrogen from cow's milk. But if the gut is working, that estrogen (which is low in quantity) shouldn't be absorbed. These topics are on the old RPF forum - higher fat milk has more estrogen, so then it might be a problem, just as fat/weight gain will happen from high fat diets. But he didn't go into that.
I checked some AIs: liver and gut, (when healthy) process these estrogens, so they shouldn't be a major risk (especially compared to pufas).
3rd straw-man.Idk, I can't listen to this whole talk. It's a psyop in itself. Why is it all concerned with fertility? He also has no superior recommendations, and he's mostly cherry-picking and making strawmen. I'd rather hear a constructive counter-argument or advocating or shilling for keto or carnivore. He does push DHT as safe.
I'm skeptical about progesterone and other supplemental hormones, so I'll agree with him somewhat on that - that may be altering fertility and energy for good or bad possibly long-term, and I think the science is too complex for average people to be concerned with.
I mean, he's saying eating more seafood is associated with higher mercury intake. Yeah. That's why you don't eat tuna every day - there are small fish that don't accumulate heavy metals. Bigger fish contain more.
Some "Peaters" harp on cultish ideas for sure, but he's just playing counter-narrative. He claims all Peaters are young. Many are not! Many are over 40 or 30 at least, and trying to fix genuine health problems.
He's in favor of "Vit A bad."
Do an eye-brow check on this guy... no offense to him, but he appears hypothyroid and even a bit pale and tired, like cancer patients, which is not a good look. Still, he's right to criticize cultish and unthinking "Peating TM."
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@alfredoolivas said in Raypeat = infertility psyop?:
One astern European countries, fructose is used as an OTC supplement for fertility.
Additionally, I'm surprised to see the dude knocking seafood... seafood and sugars are commonly pushed as high libido foods. Oysters and certain fruits are aphrodisiacs.
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@eduardo-crispino said in Raypeat = infertility psyop?:
he says pineapple and lemon juice are bad for fertility
Afaik, I've rarely seen pineapple pushed in the Peatsphere because of serotonin. I eat it but not daily. Lemon juice also - I don't see anyone pushing this except for cooking or in drinks.
If the guy wanted to take the low hanging fruit he should have gone after Coca Cola and "pufa bad," wherein he could recite FDA figures about heart-healthy omega-6s and "sugar causes diabetes," etc. Surprising he didn't do this.
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He objectively looks extremely unhealthy. Almost everyone in the Peat-sphere looks WAY healthier in comparison.
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@Corngold I eat 2 large pineapples a week. I think they are really good for digestion, especially protein digestion.
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I usually eat the canned stuff. It is one of my favorites, bromelain is supposed to be good; I always feel good after eating it and drinking the juice.
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@Corngold canned probably has bromelian deactivated because of the cooking process of canning
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@Hearthfire said in Raypeat = infertility psyop?:
He objectively looks extremely unhealthy. Almost everyone in the Peat-sphere looks WAY healthier in comparison.
How? In wich ways?
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Do low Vitamin A people also avoid sunlight?
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@eduardo-crispino said in Raypeat = infertility psyop?:
Do low Vitamin A people also avoid sunlight?
Yes, they are like vampires. If you add enough garlic to the liver, it's even easier to fight them off.
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@evan-hinkle I know
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@Corngold I agree with the claim that he often uses straw man arguments and exaggerates claims. That’s why I tried to focus only on the one strong argument he made in the talk, the idea that fructose may cause worse fertility in some studies.
By the way, I never realized his eyebrows were almost nonexistent, thanks for pointing that out
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@Corngold in his program he also condemns pufa consumption
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@random
Pale, bad skin in general, buldging eyes, thin eyebrows indicating hypothyroidism, dark circles around eyes, bald, looks extremely tired, stressed, and like his cortisol is out of control. -
@Hearthfire said in Raypeat = infertility psyop?:
@random
Pale, bad skin in general, buldging eyes, thin eyebrows indicating hypothyroidism, dark circles around eyes, bald, looks extremely tired, stressed, and like his cortisol is out of control.Pale isnt Bad, he doesnt have Bad skin, he doesnt look extremly tired or stressed. You Said the less healthy person you have ever Seen, wich is false and exagerated. I am refering to him in the video "peat diet=infertility psyop"
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Yea personally idc how this guy looks for anything but a joke. His dis-ease is in fact written all over his behaviour.
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@lobotomize-me said in Raypeat = infertility psyop?:
the claim that ray peat practitioner have higher rates of unemployment(this really confused me)
lmao. The average peater is in fact underemployed.
Of course he was very well reviewed as a naturopathic physician. Before deciding one of the most common micronutrients in nature was damaging his "liver" and the outer world is against him.
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@random said in Raypeat = infertility psyop?:
It could be use as a infertility psyop considering carrots and liver being pushed
Come off it Truth.
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@ThinPicking said in Raypeat = infertility psyop?:
@random said in Raypeat = infertility psyop?:
It could be use as a infertility psyop considering carrots and liver being pushed
Come off it Truth.
I dont eat carrots and dont eat liver most of the Times. You hella gay if you aint talking about carrots and liver
