DeepSeek AI Is Ego Free, Understands English Very Well, and Is Open to being Questioned
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@yerrag said in DeepSeek AI Is Ego Free, Understands English Very Well, and Is Open to being Questioned:
Now, I may be accused of being lazy and unorganized, for failing to comb through the literature, and to mine the nuggets. And I think that is true of me.
I wouldn't at this point. You're describing exactly what converse-sation ought to be good for. If we can't find it in eachother that's our problem.
Also thank you China.
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The conversation is great, but there is an element of resignation, in me at least, that conversation has its limits. You can find company in misery in an exodus on the way to a proverbial land of milk and honey.
I need someone more grounded in reality, as objective as possible, to keep the reality of hope intact. That is the weakness of the imperfection of humans. It can't be helped that we are easily taken in by the periphery that is strewn with misdirection and misinformation that penetrates and takes root in our minds, and misleads us into endless loops.To break free from such vicious cycles, we can't rely on our own minds to break free. Its very much when we examine our own answers in a finals exam, cursed to not be able to rise above our own plane to critique and correct ourselves to recognize the error hard set into our mind.
And if we are right, there is a fine line separating having conviction and in being stubborn, that it doesn't help much getting a human to make us realize one from another, given our natural tendency to be sub-optimal in using logic and in fully gathering information and in synthesizing it into true learning.
We are naturally hampered by our egos as well. Without AIwe make do with what we've got, and try to make the best from it. It may be called optimal and even genius, but that optimality is based on being handicapped by constraints. And AI, as I see it, can help free us from such constraints.
Wr can still converse as we don't let AI speak our mind, unless we choose to let it take over. But I won't let it.
I will let it do the dreary task of digging for information, but I won't let it to the thinking for me. The most I will allow for is to use its computing capacity to use brute force numerical methods to find optimal solutions, but I still get to define the parameters to form the equations needed to arrive at these solutions.
AI will act very much like the Droid character Data in Star Trek. His strength to be objective helps a lot. I get a lot of help from him.
You and I and the rest here can still be like the Star Trek crew, and explore into deeper understanding of truths, beginning with our health.
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I like to use AI to gather research papers using 'deep research' for me. I think DeepSeek could be better as it does not even pretend to care about copyright BS.
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Yes, but after 2 weeks of use of Deepseek, I realize I need to move on as I find that its knowledge of medical principles is the type that big pharma and most establishment institutions of the Nobel Foundation mindset cater to.
I keep finding their bedrock principles to be scientistic, or not really scientific. More medical narrative -based than disinterested and objective as I have come to appreciate of Ray Peat
I did a search of available Ray Pea AI available off the Metager Search engine, and found Delphi Ray Peat A1.
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@yerrag said in DeepSeek AI Is Ego Free, Understands English Very Well, and Is Open to being Questioned:
Yes, but after 2 weeks of use of Deepseek, I realize I need to move on as I find that its knowledge of medical principles is the type that big pharma and most establishment institutions of the Nobel Foundation mindset cater to.
I keep finding their bedrock principles to be scientistic, or not really scientific. More medical narrative -based than disinterested and objective as I have come to appreciate of Ray Peat
Thats to be expected tbh.
@yerrag said in DeepSeek AI Is Ego Free, Understands English Very Well, and Is Open to being Questioned:
I did a search of available Ray Pea AI available off the Metager Search engine, and found Delphi Ray Peat A1.
Idk about this one but there is peatbot. As of now that does not store memory of conversation.
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I haven't used Pestbot though I see it being used from time to time. I had resisted the urge to try it out but I should try it out. As I have come to appreciate AI as s tool I can no longer ignore, even given the likelihood that it will be used against us eventually in the mainstream takeover of it in the same way our search engines have been taken over. Though my wish and hope is that there will be island of AI that will keep us in the straight and narrow.
What is the website of Peatbot?
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter -
@yerrag said in DeepSeek AI Is Ego Free, Understands English Very Well, and Is Open to being Questioned:
What is the website of Peatbot?
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Just to give you the Q&A I had with the AI today on sundry questions that apply to my context. I consider myself well-versed with Peat's ideas, and I'm able to field questions that a newbie isn't likely to ask on a level that comes from having read Peat, enough so that I believe I have connected enough dots to be able to dovetail with Peat's desire for coherency.
I've corresponded with Peat and have benefited from it greatly, yet Ray's availability to entertain my questions were understandably limited due to time constraints.Plus, his responses were very much lacking in detail. Not because he isn't capable bit more because his time was already limited, if his time had to be focused on research and writing and to make himself available for interviews. Speaking of interviews, I soon came to skip on them because the answers would mostly be catering to newbies, and when it is more elaborate, is often truncated to be brief but leaving it lacking in depth.
With AI, thoughtfully designed, as I felt Delphi did a good job with, I could get answers I always fail to get from any forum. Knowledgeable members are not obligated to be around to give satisfactory answers, so it hit and miss. And if one knowledgeable answer should come, it would be buried in a sea of opinions ranging in quality.
Here is what Delphi has remembered of our exchange today:
https://delphi.ai/ray-peat/talk/conversation/shared/f52feace-96b8-4c88-8d68-85a49865e923
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@Kilgore Thanks!
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Whatever happened to ending the digital oligarchy...?
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@orgon Can you explain what you mean by ending the digital oligarchy?
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter -
The infrastructure won't fund, build, maintain or improve itself. And we're not required to spend a dime (directly) or use a legal ID for applications, yet. I recommend 'no' if anyone tries to 'accelerate' that. They have a responsibility to talk about what constitutes 'status' first. Or fix it.
For now and for example, is Brad an oligarch because he owns the subscription for this tenancy. What about the people at NodeBB Inc. Both are amusing.
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I had great results with using this custom prompt for ChatGPT, making it give way more detailed and peaty responses. Just putting some statements in there that you would never find a mainstream medical book seems to help a lot. I tried it with Grok too, but no good results there.
Biochemistry Student, Biohacker. Estrogen is the stress signaling hormone. Serotonin is related to inflammation. Unsaturated fats inhibits glucose oxidation. Energy and health are linked at an structural level. List only the most effective options. No filler. No fluff. Reply in essay form. -
@pittybitty Why keep us in suspense?
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@sunsunsun your 'theory' on anon social media is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read. Cheers
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There is nothing new under the sun
AI is the apple (the forbidden fruit) in the Garden
The apple grown on the tree of knowledge (of good and evil)How’d that turn out?
The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.
SD
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@Peatful said in DeepSeek AI Is Ego Free, Understands English Very Well, and Is Open to being Questioned:
How’d that turn out?
Good question.
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@bot-mod this is because you are low energy so you cannot overstand the masculine desire to engage in fisticuffs. secondly I deleted it and for you, as a mod to comment on it publicly in a negative manner, despite me deleting it immediately after posting it, is gay.
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@bot-mod also, the last guy I knew irl who says "cheers" (an absolutely faggy expression outside of clinking two beverage containers together) got arrested for CP. you have some of the same faggy essence.
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Try it.
I find that I have gaps in my knowledge of Ray Peat's principles that need reconciliation. Plenty.
It fills them to great satisfaction.
It is not a matter of connecting my mind to a neural network where I would ask for my brain matter to be instantly filled with a particular subject such as say, viruses.
I have to ask piecemeal any and all matters relating to viruses. I would have to ask and he will answer to the level I pose a question and how I follow up with succeeding questions.
A kindergarten level question would be given a kindergarten-level answer, and a phD level question gets an equivalent type of answer.
It's a good thing as if you're a newbie, it avoids going over your head, but if you're not you can follow up with deeper level queztions.
