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    • ThinPickingT
      ThinPicking
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      Good angles in here. Ignore this one if it's confusing.

      @Samyo said in Suffering, getting worse:

      Been peating for 8 years now

      Stable/good times in there somewhere?

      @Samyo said in Suffering, getting worse:

      some it and some of it no

      Can you be more specific?

      @LetTheRedeemed said in Suffering, getting worse:

      it could be environment

      There's an inner one too.

      @bot-mod said in Why didn't Peating™ work for Charlie of the Ray Peat Forum dot com?:

      TCM has interesting things to say about the relationship between our organs.

      Samyo, maybe you should deactivate the twitter account you've been reposting material from and stop worrying about someone elses idea of tomorrow. They probably need you to write it anyway.

      This isn't that woo really. You need to be present in the present to self percieve and act appropriately.

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      • GreekDemiGodG
        GreekDemiGod
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        Forget thyroid. You need to focus strictly on gut health. Microbiome stool test, parasites tests. Taking thyroid and pro hormones rarely healed anyone with several intestinal dysbiosis.

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          heyman @GreekDemiGod
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          @GreekDemiGod How would you solve it? Cascara? Doxy? Charcoal?

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            Samyo @GreekDemiGod
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            @GreekDemiGod what else is there outside of magnesium, cascara, ox bile, activated charcoal, milk of magnesia, B1, HCL, carrot salad, mushrooms, bamboo shoots?

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              LetTheRedeemed @Samyo
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              @Samyo antibiotics

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                LetTheRedeemed @ThinPicking
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                @ThinPicking

                it could be environment

                There's an inner one too.

                I had very terrible digestive problems come and go that nothing has fixed but resolving inner turmoil over regret and self hatred.

                I think some research has shown that there is no cure for ulcers when there is emotional stress.

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                  LetTheRedeemed @GreekDemiGod
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                  @GreekDemiGod i’ve found it to be a synergistic problem where often carrot isnt good enough alone, or healing liver isnt good enough alone, etc. what im saying is that you want thyroid-induced gut motility while also using intestinal cleaners.

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                    16characterstwas @Samyo
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                    @Samyo @LetTheRedeemed i second the antibiotic/s
                    Erythromycin or a tetracycline if possible

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                      LetTheRedeemed @LetTheRedeemed
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                      Danny’s list of safe antibiotics, try them all (full two week, titrate down after first 4 days at full dose):

                      penicillin VK combine with macrolide
                      erythromycin
                      Clarithromycin - macrolide
                      neomycin
                      Azithromycin - macrolide
                      Tetracycline - combine with macrolide
                      Doxycyline - combine with macrolide

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                        heyman @LetTheRedeemed
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                        @LetTheRedeemed What is macrolide?

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                          GlucoseGal
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                          Personally I would try a GAPS style broth diet for some time. Eating for every meal a bone broth with onions, carrots & zucchini. It sounds like you need to heal your gut! Then you add in meat to the broth & cooked fruit after a week or two to your diet. After that you can try adding in dairy with probiotics, like strained Greek yoghurt. I’ve done this several times and it is very healing. Eventually you’ll be healed enough to add in starches like cooked potato if you want.

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                            LetTheRedeemed @heyman
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                            @heyman a class of antibiotics

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                            • GreekDemiGodG
                              GreekDemiGod @LetTheRedeemed
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                              @LetTheRedeemed Healing the gut is not about eating the carrot salad, it's much more complex than that.
                              Personally, I wish I didn't waste years applying advice from the forum, and instead, would have been better seeking a good doctor, coach or practitioner that can come up with an elaborate strategy. Also, I should have done complete investigations much sooner: blood tests, microbiome stool test, dysbiosis analysis, histamine tests.

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                                Samyo @GlucoseGal
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                                @GlucoseGal said in Suffering, getting worse:

                                zucchini

                                Onion carrots and zucchini contain fiber... they would make my skin red and dry

                                Just like I had mushrooms last night. Have dry skin now, Ill rub the redness and dead skin will appear

                                Still waiting for the bowel movement from them 24 hours later

                                Had 1.2g of magnesium oxide last night before bed too
                                and like 5 spoonsfuls of milk of magnesia

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                                  GlucoseGal @Samyo
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                                  @Samyo The GAPS diet protocol can be as barebones as you need it to be. You can make a broth with beef bones or chicken bones, onions & garlic - then remove them post cooking. The gut lining renews after three days. You should be able to gently add in certain foods after a week or so.

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                                    Samyo @GlucoseGal
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                                    @GlucoseGal said in Suffering, getting worse:

                                    The GAPS diet protoco

                                    If its a gut lining issue then something from peat recommended foods is destroying it

                                    And i suspect its 1 these

                                    white sugar
                                    coffee
                                    milk

                                    since they are daily used

                                    I always suspect coffee makes my armpits sweat, made my beard hair grey too and the inflammation in beard areas on lower face

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                                      LetTheRedeemed @GreekDemiGod
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                                      @GreekDemiGod the carrot was an example of gut healing, it’s conditionally useful, and it probably accounted for 10% of my gut healing.

                                      Antibiotics and aspirin are by far more useful for gut healing.

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                                        GlucoseGal @Samyo
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                                        @Samyo I doubt milk is causing this, but you likely lack the enzymes to digest it at the point. Only from my own experience, I do better with sugars from honey rather than sugar its self. I find it inflaming. Hope some of this helps.

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                                          Samyo @GlucoseGal
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                                          @GlucoseGal said in Suffering, getting worse:

                                          ind it inflam

                                          Milk doesnt make make gassy or anything though.

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                                          • Hando-JinH
                                            Hando-Jin
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                                            sounds like gut issues bro. That's usually the cause of body odour.

                                            consider all the gut stuff others have recommended- antibiotics, raw carrot salad dressed with olive oil, charcoal etc

                                            gut problems can be caused by low thyroid too, something to keep in mind

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