New "Mission" of RPF
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The religious zealotry really drags down the forum.
It’s fine to discuss, sure, but the constant purity tests are tiring.
I don’t need or care to know how someone views god. I need and care to know if a dietary intervention works or not.
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@Jaffe said in New "Mission" of RPF:
The religious zealotry really drags down the forum.
But this is important, his fave has the Mandate of Heaven or something. And apparently his prophetic projections are 'Glorious'.
@Jaffe said in New "Mission" of RPF:
I don’t need or care to know how someone views god. I need and care to know if a dietary intervention works or not.
I reckon these things are inextricably linked. But it may be more an underlying thought form and feeling than a linguistical exercise. Maybe more a matter of heart than mind. Gleaning it from someone's writing might involve some inference and metaphor. I've no idea really, this isn't my day job.
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This thread argues that the high methionine in the standard Ray Peat foods explains the negative symptoms better than vitamin A. It makes sense, many of the "poison A" believers talk about their negative experiences with dairy, which has the worst methionine:glycine ratio of any food.
https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/vitamin-a-or-methionine-adverse-reaction.50563/
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You've muddled your language VJ. You mean 'high vitamin A foods', not 'standard Ray Peat foods'.
Thank you for sharing it. Because this is supportive of my inner generalisation, that something's causing these people to struggle with the fruits of nature. And they simply picked a particular micronutrient because an engineer made up a conspiracy theory, wrote a book and tortured some mice.
Neither 'poison A' nor a methionine/glycine ratio explains their difficulty relative to those who don't have one.
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I could buy that if muscle meat consumption wasn’t a primary focus of a low-A diet lol. They’re getting high methionine while low vit-A
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@Jaffe Milk has a worse ratio of methionine to glycine than any muscle meat. Milk and dairy products actually have more methionine than glycine, while all muscle meats have more glycine than methionine (though still not at a high enough ratio to be optimal). Maybe the difference is significant enough to account for the anecdotes from the anti-vitamin A followers? Here is a comparison of milk to filet mignon (aka tenderloin) steak, one of the cuts Charlie says he eats:
https://tools.myfooddata.com/nutrition-comparison/170641-171265/200cals-200cals/1-1
Does anyone know if the any of anti-vitamin A followers took enough glycine? According to Chris Masterjohn the daily minimum should be 10g. That's 30g of collagen or gelatin daily, which is quite a lot, like 8 tablespoons of pure collagen powder.
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@VehmicJuryman said in New "Mission" of RPF:
According to Chris Masterjohn the daily minimum should be 10g.
I doubt this is a glycine thing. But would they even listen VJ.
"Chris Masterjohn is obviously suffering from vitamin A toxicity
As we know PHDs and doctors are not immune to being sick and diseased" - Evan Torrens
Simultaneously the funniest and most profound 7 months of my internet career.
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The talk of Trump being anointed is too much.
The Godfather of Operation Warp Speed is going to save everyone he didn’t successfully euthanize with the poison shot.
If a Western citizen still believes these clowns aren’t on the same team (not ours), and still gets fired up about voting and politicians, they fit firmly in the mid-wit and below IQ category (despite delusions of their intelligence).
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@Mallard6146 said in New "Mission" of RPF:
The talk of Trump being anointed is too much.
And there I was thinking God has a hand on everything and everyone. Except free will, or the outsourcing of it.
@Mallard6146 said in New "Mission" of RPF:
The Godfather of Operation Warp Speed is going to save everyone he didn’t successfully euthanize with the poison shot.
god forbid, busy high-trust people should bear the light and be bright. Especially if they're 'liberal'.
Personally I wouldn't even vax vax 'persuasion' perpetrators. Just re-educate them with mandatory thyroid, sugar and military grade, clockwork orange kindness. (Humour, ofc.)
@Mallard6146 said in New "Mission" of RPF:
If a Western citizen still believes these clowns aren’t on the same team (not ours), and still gets fired up about voting and politicians, they fit firmly in the mid-wit and below IQ category (despite delusions of their intelligence).
I see your point, I understand. And agree no one should be getting fired up about selecting janitors. But like or lump, they are on our team. They just need coherent instructions.
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The problem is not the lack of instructions, but who they are receiving the instructions from.
Janitors is a gracious label. I believe “exterminators” is more fitting.
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Yep. But there's more of you. Coherence is a tall order. But there's more of you.
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@Mallard6146 said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Janitors is a gracious label. I believe “exterminators” is more fitting.
The new chief exterminator here is looking forward to his super special, special relationship with trump. No doubt.
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To clarify, I am also a Christian, but Charlie is misguided and illogical.
Trump is behind operation Warp Speed.
The government clearly had first-hand knowledge the vaccine was poisonous.
Said Vaccine kills and otherwise harms millions, as expected (planned?)
Trump continues to take credit for said vaccine and refuses to denounce it.
…Trump is anointed? How does anyone arrive to this conclusion given the above?
2024 Election: In one corner, we have Commander Poison Shot, and in the other we have…a different Commander Poison Shot.
We have a zionist “finish the job (kill the rest of the kids?) poison shot tv show host squaring off against a dementia ridden “I love kids more than people” geriatric how also supports Israel and the vax.
How can so few see that this is a sham?
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In my possibly controversial opinion.
I think most truly faithful people can see it. Their rhetoric might take some time to catch up to a current thing, but they can see. And even once their rhetoric does catch up. Whether they'll be honest about it up front or not depends on the forum and who else is present. Which might seem deceptive, but walking and talking is probably better than running and arguing. And nobody's perfect, so persuasion will probably go both ways. I can't always remember who changed my 'mind', but I know they did.
The rest are faithful by faulty proxy or fatally materialistic. The latter have and cling to for dear life, a political 'home'. Where's home. Exactly.
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@bio3nergetic said in New "Mission" of RPF:
is that the name RAY PEAT be removed in association with the old forum. It is absolutely and utterly wrong that his namesake IS the forum. Ridiculous at this point.
I feel the same way. It's a constant, disgusting slur against an honorable person. Charlie will never change it willingly because he knows it upsets some people and it's a way of having power over them.
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"When copper moves out of my brain it literally feels like my brain is morphing and twisting. I could see it freaking someone out if they did not understand what was going on."
"So I have postulated that aspirin does speed up detox because from my observations dermatitis is vitmain A toxicity oozing out through the skin."
"Before I started dextrose I would notice my eyes leaking anytime I pushed detox really hard. I think the eye is basically detoxing and healing."
Guy's all over the place. He'll come around.
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The whole 'anything negative I feel is detox' ideation is nothing short of willful ingnorance. Application of even non-negative but unexpected effects to 'detox' just raises that bar of fallaciousness to a clown world level
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I was on Twitter and the peat-sphere there when I found out about this forum and about what was in happening with the RPF. I saw screenshots and comments about it then, but I avoided visiting RPF since I heard the news... until today...
Honestly, I don't know what to say... It's clear to me that Charlie has suffered some kind of psychotic break, and I'm not just saying that. Everything there is super deranged even details about what Ray Peat said or didn't say... Even them using the phrase "ray peat diet" unironically (since it's used ironically on Twitter peat-sphere). Plus, every other account feels like a charlie-alt. I literally had that thought, before I read someone commenting that same thing in a thread (shout out to user "mephisto").
Also, it's just weird to see some cultish form of Christianity paired with "vitamin A toxicity" and other topics discussed as the God-given solution to modernity lol. It's not self-aware at all and is just disturbing. Also, the essence of Peat has always been "perceive, think, act", so I don't understand why people (Charlie's alts) there have to slam his dietary suggestions to promote these other diets.
Anyway, I feel like I just took a trip to a local asylum of the early 20th. It sucks that the name is still after "Ray Peat" though because I associate peating with being flexible and strategic in thought and action with regards to food as the Twitter peat-sphere displays alongside this forum.
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@Hando-Jin said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@bio3nergetic said in New "Mission" of RPF:
is that the name RAY PEAT be removed in association with the old forum. It is absolutely and utterly wrong that his namesake IS the forum. Ridiculous at this point.
I feel the same way. It's a constant, disgusting slur against an honorable person. Charlie will never change it willingly because he knows it upsets some people and it's a way of having power over them.
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