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Borz must have been banned after this post

@Light said in New "Mission" of RPF:

This is crazy.

I'm very concerned about all the valuable threads being lost, and especially the Ray Peat email depository. Is any of this available to download anywhere?

https://peatarchive.com

@C-Mex said in New "Mission" of RPF:

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but it looks like Vitamin D is "toxic" as well. I don't have a problem with people discussing the pros and cons of things or a new take on research on something, but these proclamations from anonymous posters grabbing this or that anecdote or study wrapped around to support grandiose claims by various 'experts' is just total garbage. This is what we had for health information before Ray Peat. Interesting that this person wants to link Vitamin D to the 'allergy epidemic', because it has been speculated that the increased vaccine schedule is causing allergies/autoimmune symptoms. I smell a rat.

Isn’t he selling a product that claims to increase vitamin D?

https://lifegivingstore.com/store/nano-soma/

And another one

https://peatforum.com/

@yerrag I appreciate your reply.

France Passes Controversial Law Punishing Criticism of mRNA

Did the French National Assembly pass a "Pfizer Article" criminalising criticism of the mRNA vaccines?

@S-Holmes said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@Not_James_Bond
Rinse and Repeat fell victim to the machine gun attack today. She wasn't banned but I would DM her the new forum link if I could be certain Charlie wouldn't see it. I'm not ready to be banned yet. The forum has seen me through some dark times so I feel a little weepy about leaving. Too sentimental, I know.

She knows about this forum. She is in the process of setting up her own website - she posted the link on the RPF recently.

@mostlylurking
This is the one I use Metabolics Thiamine Pyrophosphate

Thank you for those links - This full article you linked it includes the doses used in the experiment. I don't know how this will translate to human studies.

https://febs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1046/j.1432-1327.2001.02329.x

From the article

To examine the effect of thiamine administration on tumour cell proliferation, we treated mice daily with 0, 12.5, 25, 37.5, 50, 75, 125, 250, and 2500 times the RDA subcutaneous, starting on day 4 after inoculation of the tumour until 8 days after tumour implantation. Treatment with thiamine was started on day 4 after implantation of the tumour because, as we previously reported, the Ehrlich's tumour is already highly deficient in thiamine at this time, there being 42% of apo-TK inside the tumour [19].

Results in Fig. 1 show that at moderate doses (12.5, 25, 37.5 times the RDA) thiamine acts as a vitamin, intensifiying tumour growth through transketolase activation. With respect to untreated mice, a maximum increase in tumour cell number of 164% was obtained at a thiamine dose of 25 times the RDA. Interestingly, higher doses of thiamine did not produce such a dramatic change in final tumour cell number when compared with control animals. Furthermore, an overdose of 2500 times the RDA of thiamine results in an inhibition of 10% on tumour proliferation. This inhibitory effect of thiamine overdoses suggests that high doses of the vitamin could benefit the organism by inhibiting tumour growth. The possible inhibitory effect on tumour growth, resulting from the administration of high doses of thiamine before tumour inoculation, is further considered below.

@yerrag said in Banned from RP forum : Can you do better than this.:

@Not_James_Bond I am surprised from the start of Charlie's plan to transition to a subscriptions based model that there are people who believed in supporting charlie in subscribing to a forum already losing membership quality. Charlie knows it. The early members that provided much of the momentum and credibility to the forum have gone save for a few that still cling to the hope that the quality may yet be infused with new quality members. If there was some remaining value to the forum, it is in the quality of its trove of posts from early years. Very little quality remains from posts in the recent past. Newbies go through the wringer of bad advices from fellow members who can only give short advice often so banal you can get simply by googling, simply defeating the role a knowledgeable forum plays in countering the filtered results in Google where the intent is to lead people down rabbit holes and wild goose chases. With no third rail existing to stop bad advice from dominating the forum. No one is able and willing enough to arrest the downtrend in quality and the increase in garbage material coming in the form of thoughtlessly opinionated advice. The forum has turned into a cesspool I would no longer recommend friends to.

And all of what I just said is before Charlie began to shout as loudly to increase the destruction in the avalanche. I feel so bad this happened, as many unwitting and impressionable and credulous people are going to get trapped in the avalanche. I believe there would still be many trusting souls out there who do not know they are on a sinking ship and do not know the concept of cutting their losses, throwing good money after bad. I know one when I see one as I have a sister just like that. And it is a lost cause. The more I explain, the more she digs in. Doing the same thing that hasn't worked in the hope it will work the next time.

The subscription model of Charlie may still work for him unfortunately. There are plenty of morons who perceive value in paying for bad advice and very few sharp people who knows how to get good advice for free. There are enough morons around to contribute to charlie's grandiose plans to build his empire.

If it was really that bad surely you would have left way before you were banned?

Dr. Peat had a superior intellect. He was also very humble and would NEVER look down on anyone simply because they do not possess his intellectual abilities. So many people on the RPF were kind and generous with their knowledge but would never look down on someone who was struggling to grasp the nuances of health information. I’ve witnessed success stories being patiently recounted, repeatedly, just to help yet another new member. Also, there were people who did not have that expertise who still went out of their way to help in their limited ways. The forum got many people through a difficult plandemic lockdown and vaccine mandates – this once in a life time experience was traumatic for the people who lost loved ones. At a time when people were losing jobs, family members, long term friendship groups, the forum became a haven – for a while at least. There were others who shared random news information, recipes, the humour threads, music etc. Ray Peat wasn’t just about health, he wrote about politics, art, relationships, and society in general. Many accounts of success and failures on the RPF contributed to knowledge. It takes all sorts to form a community.

It was good to see you here because many of us were worried that you may have come to an unfortunate end due to your recent health crisis. I am glad you are in good shape and in a way your continued disdain is a sign you have made a full recovery. However, it’s disappointing to see that your time in the ICU has not humbled you.

@S-Holmes Yes I do remember her. Personally I don't eat salads, I don't tolerate them since before peating. I do love cooked greens.

Apparently this is what you should be eating

@mostlylurking It was thiamine HCL powder. I've been on thiamine for years, all forms but never more than 50mg at a time.

I use a liquid thiamine pyrophosphate which works really well sublingually

I got perfect memory recall when I took 200mg. I remember going back to my desk and suddenly remembering a name I couldn’t recall previously.

Have you ever tried thiamine topically? @mostlylurking
The idealabs formulation Energin can be used on the skin. I don’t rely on it for my thiamine but I do use it as a b complex.

@Love_The_Blacks said in Why is the Ray Peat community so far right?:

The same Nayib Bukele, one of the young global leaders of the WEF?

@CO3 I don’t base my statement on anything Ray said – my position is one of realising (during the plandemic) that it doesn’t matter which political party you vote for the outcome is likely to be the same. Perhaps years ago there was some distinction between the left and the right – that has changed. All the culture wars are designed to keep us fighting amongst ourselves. Ultimately, their goal is towards one world governance.

@Love_The_Blacks said in Why is the Ray Peat community so far right?:

@Peatly I genuinely cannot wait for when we inevitably win so we can just deport all the leftists and their orcs back to Mordor (the third world).

This society where we uphold the sick, broke, resentful, weak, old and COWARDLY to the detriment of the STRONG and BEAUTIFUL cannot end soon enough.

I don't like paying half of my paycheck so that Shaniqua can get her gibs

Interesting – what exactly are you winning?

Yes, the sun is now white. I don’t know exactly when it happened but I noticed is about 5 years ago.

Ray Peat Clips on YouTube

@buckminster said in Why is the Ray Peat community so far right?:

"First, a person who is chronically sick and malnourished just doesn't have much energy or stamina to study and be critical. So first, you just have to stop poisoning yourself by eating what the government and dietitians
are selling as a healthful diet, and once you have the strength to read and think, then you realize who is doing what to you, and you start investigating the food industry, the agricultural production industry, the science industry that supports the agricultural imposition, and the political system that justifies the medical and agricultural economic imposition. All of these are very clearly wound together in a system to maintain class dominance. It started in the 1930s depression with the government having a three-tiered diet. One to prevent starvation in the very poor, one an economical diet to get along on very little, and then at the top a healthy diet."
-Ray Peat

Thank you for posting. I’ve been looking for this quote for a while. There was a thread on the RPF – but all I could recall was “who is doing what to you.” My search was futile when I last looked a few weeks ago. I have now located the 2016 interview. We owe a lot of gratitude to Danny Roddy for teasing out such gems from Dr. Peat.

You are right, his work is not just about understanding the biological aspect of the organism but also understanding the wider political environment. I believe medical tyranny is not just about pharmaceutical greed but part of a wider political system of control and depopulation. During the plandemic lockdown I listened to a lot of Dr Peat’s interviews. I read the Kessinger report of 1974 at that time too and concluded that you cannot ascribe to incompetence what is clearly malice. This was a eugenics policy designed to keep developing countries from prospering so that they can be exploited and depopulated. The mass movement of people away from those countries is no surprise. If a country cannot develop and look after its people then the people will seek employment elsewhere. I digress. Since learning how the powers that be play all sides to service the interests of corporations, and the families that own them, I no longer believe in the left vs. right paradigm (not that anyone can give a satisfactory definition of either positions).

Here is the full transcript of that section of the interview.

Danny Roddy: Obviously you focus a lot on food. Do you think that's a way in to shift the consciousness of the people towards lower serotonin if that relates to somebody's authoritarianism?

Ray Peat: Yeah, first a person who is chronically sick and malnourished just doesn't have much energy or stamina to study and be critical. So first you just have to stop poisoning yourself by eating what the government and dieticians are selling as a healthful diet. And once you have the strength to read and think, then you realize who is doing what to you. And you start investigating the food industry, the agricultural production industry, the science industry that supports the agricultural imposition, and the political system that justifies the medical and agricultural economic imposition. All of these are very clearly wound together in a system to maintain class dominance. It's very healthful to eat lobster once in a while, but you don't see dieticians or the government recommending that. It started in the 1930s depression with the government having a three-tiered diet. One to prevent starvation in the very poor, one an economical diet to get along on very little, and then at the top a healthy diet. And if you look at the bare survival and economic minimal diet of the Great Depression, the dieticians in the 1960s and 70s adopted those survival diets as the healthy diet. Lots of beans and grains as the basic diet.

Danny Roddy: Do you think that was on purpose in a form of control?

Ray Peat: Yeah, part of it was that the government had been buying milk, dehydrating it, making cheese and butter to keep American farmers working to support the prices. So they were warehousing huge amounts of powdered milk, cheese, and butter, and giving them away first as foreign aid, and then the precursor to food stamps was to have, I think, every month, a giveaway to poor people of cheese, eggs, powdered milk, and so on. And in the 70s, there was a big movement to stop helping the poor people in other countries, as well as the poor at home. And one of the arguments that came up in the pseudoscientific dietetic community was that people outside the United States hardly ever can tolerate lactose, so you should stop giving them powdered milk. And that argument against people, only certain white people can tolerate lactose, that was heavily promoted as a racist change of foreign policy against foreign aid and food aid in general. Sending them beans was okay, except we didn't need to support the price of American beans that way.

Danny Roddy: Do you think this tendency to be authoritarian, or as Altameyer would have said, right-wing authoritarian, even though it's a semi-confusing term, do you personally see it more in Americans versus other places? I know you've mentioned Mexico as a different type of environment and being a little more cheerful. Do you think that's largely because of the history of the U.S. and how things got flushed out?

Ray Peat: A lot of it is the specific policy choices of the government and corporations indoctrinating Americans in a certain way. And one of my main criticisms of Bob Altameyer is that he has focused on the right-wing authoritarianism, and it would be okay to call it right-wing if you define right in the sense of the fascism that Winston Churchill and FDR subscribed to. Americans generally think of FDR as an extreme leftist president, but definitely his admiration for Mussolini says there was no leftism at all. He said what he was doing was saving his class, saving the ruling class, because there was such a threat of revolution in the United States. So he was saving capitalism, and that would, I think, fit in as, you could say, modified fascism. It was an inventive way of keeping the corporations lightly out of sight, letting them buy the various regulatory agencies, but keeping them out of the executive for their own good. He was fixing the economy with Keynesian economics, which the people who organized a coup in 1933 to get him out, they considered even the borrowing and spending to be a communist plot of government. They wanted to get Roosevelt out, but what he was doing was using finance to prevent revolution. And immediately the Dulleses, when it came out that Alan Dulles was working closely with the Nazis at the end of World War II, Stalin informed Roosevelt that his spies were aware that Dulles was collaborating with the Nazis, and Roosevelt, his comments suggested that he thought maybe Stalin had gone crazy to tell him such a thing. But within two or three days, Roosevelt surely would have found out that Stalin was right, and that would have put Dulles in line for the war crimes trials. But luckily for Dulles, right at that moment, Roosevelt chose to die, saving Dulles from criminal treason prosecution. And the powers in the Democratic Party who had connections both with Adolf Hitler and with the DuPont gang that had organized the 1933 coup attempt, they were in charge of the big city Democratic Power Party machine. And they knew that Harry Truman had expressed himself many times as wanting Hitler to go fight the Soviets. And since that was the preferred American policy, they had installed him as vice president in 1944. And so Roosevelt's death in '45 not only saved Dulles, but it put Truman in position to continue the pro-Nazi policy. I have a project paperclip where the top Germans were not only helped move to Argentina and adjoining countries, but a lot of them were brought to the US, the scientists in particular.

End of interview transcript

Meanwhile – the powers that be are pushing the idea of the rise of the far right and constructing a narrative which will come in handy when they need the next patsy for the next false flag.

@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:

Peatology

I like this word.