@Jennifer Wow, Jennifer, thank you so much for all of your detailed information! I am wondering how you managed your reactive hypoglycemia while consuming simple sugars. My systolic BP goes up with sharp swings in blood sugar, either in the upward or the downward direction. How were you able to transition into a fruitarian diet while having reactive hypoglycemia? Did you go very long without eating? And was there a concern for stomach emptying time, using whole milk, eggs, seafood and cheese? Can you give me an example of a day's worth of eating, with timing of the foods when you still were experiencing reactive hypoglycemia? And do or did you also consume food/ drink at night? If so, what did you have and when? Did and do you take your Armour Thyroid on an empty stomach or with food? How much do you take at any given time and how many times within a 24 hour period? Do you take Armour only, or do you add some extra T3? I left my phone number in a private message on this forum. Would you be willing to call me?
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RE: How to stabilize blood sugar during COVID illness?
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RE: How to stabilize blood sugar during COVID illness?
@Jennifer So I assume that you were on 1/4 grain of Armour thyroid for 2 weeks, and every 2 weeks you dosed up by 1/4 grain or 1/2 grain? And each time you noticed that your temperature and pulse were too low, even with the adrenaline flowing? How did you discern a better pulse and temperature from the effects of the adrenaline and cortisol? Was that just by how you felt? Can you elaborate more on the insomnia that you had? Did you also have central, (brain) sleep apnea? Frequent waking? Did you wake up each time with an adrenaline rush? Was the raw milk and yogurt whole or what percentage fat did you consume in the milk and yogurt? Did you consume anything besides the milk and yogurt? During the adrenaline days/ nights, did you have problems with blood sugar dysregulation, REACTIVE hypoglycemia? (I know you said you had hypoglycemia, but was it of the reactive type, in response to consuming carbs?) In other words, were you able to tolerate much carbohydrate, or did the carbohydrate cause any problems? When you were drinking 4 liters of milk a day plus yogurt, did you add any juice or sugar or take in any other carbohydrates? And if your hypoglycemia was reactive hypoglycemia, did that simply resolve with taking more Armour? Did you have to go low carb until you were up to an adequate dose of thyroid? If so, what dose was the turning point? Any details you can provide on your diet over the course of your healing would be most welcome. Also, have you added any T3 in addition to what is already in Armour thyroid? Sorry if this seems scattered. I am just not sleeping hardly any at all.
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@Jennifer Did you take PenVK in your recovery, and if so, what was your protocol? Dose, frequency and for how long? Also, did you start with a half grain of Armour? How long before you felt improvement? I was able to get some Armour thyroid. Just super insomniac and high adrenaline by now. Did you try CynoPlus before that? If so, what was the comparison? I am also wondering about body size with regard to dosing PCN (and Armour). I am only 5 foot 1 in and rapidly gaining belly fat, now up to 116lbs. (started out about 112 lbs, with more muscle mass, which I am also rapidly losing)
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@sneedful I am not sure about the biome, but you're right in that it is highly disrupted. I am trying PenVK, just starting today, at Peat doses, 250mg first day, (broken in halves and take twice daily), then 100mg total in 2 divided does for a few days, followed by flowers of sulfur. If the flowers of sulfur doesn't work to reestablish the biome, I can try Chobani yogurt, kefir, etc.
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@yerrag My respiratory symptoms are completely resolved, except that I still have a raspy voice. It is now a matter of trying drinks and foods that I can digest without having constipation or diarrhea, and managing my blood sugar, which swings high and then low, the highs and lows each causing a rise in systolic b.p., (sometimes in the 190s, but I can be 125 between the highs and lows. ) I have tried well cooked, grated mushroom and coconut oil to slow absorption down to stabilize blood sugar, but my digestive system is not ready for those just yet. Also working on adding some Cynoplus, very slowly, because I think my T3 protocol too easily gets disrupted when under extreme stress, such as having COVID. Anything that can stabilize the system is good.
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@ThinPicking I am slowly experimenting with food tolerance. Thank you.
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@ThinPicking With 2-3 liters of milk and a pint of juices a day, and now quite sedentary, water would be disastrous. I crave salt, and I am far from thirsty, and that is a good indication not to drink water.
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@Jennifer Thank you! I am very ill/ feel terrible all of the time and barely sleeping and barely functioning at this point. I appreciate your help! I doubt that I could get a doc to prescribe NDT for me, but maybe that's what I need. In the mean time, I am starting ground zero with Cynoplus and Cynomel.
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@jennifer I haven't slept the last 2 nights and lots of gas, bloating and diarrhea last night. Temps have dropped, so I guess my working theory about the aspirin and T3 was wrong. What type of NDT do you or does your mum use and how does one go about optimizing it? I will look into the CamphoSal. Thank you!
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@Serotoninskeptic Great to know about filtering the apple juice! I cannot find ripe oranges, so I think that might be a contributing factor to the intestinal irritation. The cough corresponds to the bloating, gas and diarrhea at this point. Why is your user name serotoninskeptic? I will juice other juices today. I have grapes, watermelon and apple juice, and now I know that I can filter it! Thank you!
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@ThinPicking No, I don't drink water. I can barely handle the amount of fluid I am taking in. Even when well, I don't drink water.
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@LucH I think the pathogen is irradiated and I am dealing with the aftermath of the effects of the inflammation. I have a new working hypothesis. Please see my response to Jennifer.
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@yerrag I am thinking I need to try cyproheptadine, for its anti-serotonin effects. Yes, serotonin is deactivated in the lungs. Was cyproheptadine part of your healing regime? In a nutshell, how did you heal your lungs?
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@ThinPicking Right now, I am just going by taste. The heavily salted broth is very soothing. I have stopped the baking soda, because it may have been contributing to my intestinal irritation....not sure, so many variables. Please read what I wrote to Jennifer and lmk what you think.
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@Jennifer Apple juice is too high in pectin, and, unfortunately, the grape juice that I could get without citric acid added is no longer available. Ditto for coconut water. But excellent ideas! It's just that anything with added citric acid causes intestinal irritation, at least for me. And I hear you on the powdered gelatin, I cannot do that either, unless I am really healthy! I do make my own gelatinous broth. My working diagnosis is that the stress of the illness/ adrenalin response, over sensitized me to the T3 I was taking, and at the same time, because I wanted the antiestrogen, anti-cortisol effects of aspirin, as well as aspirin's ability to limit G.I. absorption of tryptophan in the 2+ quarts of milk I have been drinking, I had increased it, (most days, 31/2 - 4 g), up until yesterday morning. Yesterday morning, I stopped all aspirin and Cynomel, because of aspirin causes unbinding of T3 from the protein carriers in the blood, essentially causing hyperthyroidism. http://content-assets.jci.org/manuscripts/106000/106905/JCI72106905.pdf Although I do not have signs of hyperthyroidism except about 10-30 min after drinking milk, o.j. and consuming a small amount of heavily salted gelatin, (my heart rate elevates about 12bpm more than normal), and I get really warm. I think I simply don't have the fuel and the nutrients for the hyperthyroidism to continue, so adrenalin/ cortisol kicks in and my b.p. shoots up. This is a working hypothesis. If it turns out to be true, I will post it as a separate post. I just stopped taking the aspirin and the T3 yesterday morning. I see varying information on the half life of T3, anywhere from 24 hours to 2 1/2 days. And I have not found anything in terms of the length of time that it takes for aspirin to have this globulin knocking off effect of T3. Lmk what you think. Your other recommendations are all good. I have stopped all oral supplements, including PenVK and Doxycycline, as well as the oral vitamin K, due to the intestinal upset, as of yesterday and today, (PenVK was prior to the Doxycycline). I am still going to supplement with topical vitamin K and D, and I rub Progest-E into my gums. Thank you for the reminder for the vitamin K! I might be a bit deficient, even though I was supplementing, and that might help with the BP. As of today, simply drinking less o.j., and a little more sugared milk and gelatin seems to be working. I log when I finish these drinks and start them again an hour later. My bp still goes up by the end of that time, but short of an I.V., it might just be a waiting game. Check out the link and lmk your thoughts. Thank you!
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@Jennifer After a night of coughing, bloating and gas from trying to introduce solid foods, I am following your suggestion. This morning, I just consumed orange juice with baking soda and homemade gelatin with salt. I had noticeable irritated bowels, but that many have been a layover from the day before. Still high systolic b.p. This afternoon, I am just consuming milk with less gelatin, (salted), than I was doing with the o.j. Still high systolic b.p. I don't know what else to try.
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@yerrag If I felt good having high b.p., that would be different. I feel terrible and my sleep is poor. Also, R.P. indicated in previous emails that a split systolic/ diastolic, (high systolic and normal to low diastolic), is caused by excessive cortisol and adrenalin. Also, now that I am no longer running a fever, I struggle to get my temps into the 98s, even up to 98.0 in the afternoon, even with taking Cynomel, 1/6 every hour, if I can manage it. My guess is that COVID simply increased every inflammatory substance in my body, and my intestines are highly inflamed and unable to handle what I put in them.
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@ThinPicking I may have made some assumptions regarding your comment on osmotic stress.
Please tell me more about possible osmotic stress with a milk and o.j. diet. I add 1-3 TBSP of white sugar for each cup of milk. If I am daring enough to try a bit of coffee with it, I add 3 TBSP, and I also use that concentration before bed and during the night. Otherwise, it is between 1 and 2 TBSP per cup of milk. As for the o.j., I generally drink 52 fl oz per day, (1.6qt.), adding a total of 3 TBSP to it as I go, sprinkling it on a ladle. Lmk what you think. Dr. Peat recommended 200 - 300 g white sugar to be added per day when under great stress with systolic b.p. elevation, but he never asked me how much milk total I was drinking. (These days, it's just under 2 qts.) -
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@LucH I have been thinking about and trying the "ideal order of foods: fiber – proteins (with fat) – carbohydrates. The fibers ingested first considerably reduce the glucose peak caused by sugar." I used ground white button mushrooms and hard cheese + gelatin, (homemade) for the protein with fat, and whole fruits for the carbohydrates, plus 1% milk My systolic b.p. is back up in the 170s. I do have experience with a CGS monitor in the past, when I also had b.p. issues with insomnia, and the spike, as well as the dips, did, in fact, cause a surge in blood pressure. I just don't know how to get in more sugar without creating these surges, since it seems that not assimilating enough sugar during times of stress, (current COVID infection), is what raises my b.p. Also, I know from experience that starches are completely OUT when I am under stress...I simply cannot digest them.
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@Jennifer Thank you for your thoughts. This has been a process, and I have been eliminating things as I went, since nothing seemed to digest. Today, I added some cheese, (Asiago, naturally aged with animal rennet), and that has elevated my b.p., but it could be more that I haven't eaten as much sugar...I am not sure. I have tried different milks and different orange juices, but I haven't tried omitting either the milk or the oj. That is something to consider. Overall, the bloating this time around has lessened as I heal/ am less in crisis.