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      Pooooop @yerrag
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      @yerrag Can you rapid-fire some more good high-cal fruits or are those the best ones?

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        yerrag @Pooooop
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        @Pooooop Plaintains are unique. But I haven't traveled enough, so there could be other places with fruits that are carb-loaded.

        My cats like to eat the Philippine plantain when fried. That certainly makes them carbs as cats don't take to fruits.

        You can find them in Filipino or Asian stores. The Cuban kind isn't as tasty IMHO.

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          GlucoseGal @Lothric
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          @Lothric it might be obvious, but you can lower your fat by going low fat for milk, cheese, etc. 0% Greek yoghurt, lean meats…

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          • PrinceTrebataP
            PrinceTrebata
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            7 pitted dates are like 110 carbs on Chronometer. Bananas are also good but I've seen some people say they're loaded with serotonin which may or may not be a problem.

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              Jennifer @Lothric
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              @Lothric, I like extra ripe bananas. They’re cheap (6 kg costs me around $6), filling and blended with some milk, they make really good soft-serve. I average 6 large bananas daily made into ice cream:

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                onliest @Lothric
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                @Lothric Sugary beverages. Coke, lemonade, sugar in coffee, juice etc. is an easy way to get more carbs

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                  serotoninskeptic @yerrag
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                  @yerrag some other high-cal and high carb fruits I can think of are dates, raisins, mamey sapote, durian

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                    yerrag @serotoninskeptic
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                    @Snow

                    Thanks, but I was talking about starches, and I'm just not sure if those fruits you mentioned are starches.

                    Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                    engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                    wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                    the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                      serotoninskeptic @yerrag
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                      @yerrag Ah I didnt realize that. Yeah mamey sapote has a decent ammount of starch I believe. Also some in dates but they are mostly sugar.

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                        yerrag @serotoninskeptic
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                        @Snow

                        I like sapote. We call it Chico in the Philippines. I consider it a fruit that isn't starch-based though.

                        My crude test is to feed it to my cats, and if they take to it regularly, it is a starch. I would give them cooked sweet potatoes, sweet potatoes, and saba (Philippine plantain) and they eat it just like they would eat bread and rice. Though I give them as treats, as they eat grated coconut with cooked fish mostly (for protein).As I don't think carbs are really all that suitable for cats, as I liken them to tigers and lions (though being human companions for a long time could have changed carbs as a suitable staple for cats, as they like to eat starch).

                        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                          serotoninskeptic @yerrag
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                          @yerrag Chico and Mamey are two different fruits, both considered sapotes. Chico is the small less starchy variant. Mamey is large and the texture of a sweet potato.

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                            yerrag @yerrag
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                            @yerrag

                            Gotcha. Thanks.

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                            engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                            wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                            the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                              edouard @Jennifer
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                              @Jennifer Amazing, can you share your banana ice cream recipe?

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                                serotoninskeptic @edouard
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                                @edouard She shared it with me before
                                I believe 1 cup of raw milk, 1 medium sized frozen banana and 1 cup of another frozen fruit. I tried it in my Ninja Creami and it turned out really good. Frozen Strawberries and Frozen Jackfruit are good additions.

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                                  Jennifer @serotoninskeptic
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                                  Thank you for sharing the recipe with @edouard, @Snow. 🙂 I did some tweaking to it using fruit juice powders instead of the additional frozen fruit to prevent the iciness they impart to the banana ice cream and the result is a perfect, creamy, soft-serve consistency. The base recipe calls for:

                                  •2/3 a cup of milk—I use raw cow or coconut milk
                                  •2 1/2 large frozen bananas—peeled when spotty and cut into 1” slices prior to freezing for easier blending
                                  •2 teaspoons of sugar or honey—I use Wendell Estate’s prairie honey for its neutral flavor

                                  To make the ice cream, I first dissolve the sweetener (and any powdered additions) in the milk, then add the bananas and blend in a high-speed blender until smooth—about 1–2 minutes. I think the base is great as is, but I’ve tried many additions that turned out well. Some of my favorites include:

                                  •Jackfruit and honeydew melon—it reminds me of tutti frutti
                                  •Coconut milk and pineapple—it reminds me of a piña colada
                                  •Black raspberry and vanilla—I use vanilla bean powder
                                  •Cinnamon white chocolate chip—I use Ceylon cinnamon
                                  •Mint chocolate chip—I use a peppermint extract and semi-sweet chocolate chips
                                  •Coffee—I use an instant, CO2 processed decaf
                                  •Peanut butter and chocolate—I use PB2 powder in the ice cream and top it with homemade Magic Shell (190 g of chocolate chips melted with 3 tablespoons of refined coconut oil)

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                                    edouard @edouard
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                                    Thank you @Jennifer @Snow !

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                                      serotoninskeptic @Jennifer
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                                      @Jennifer Oo I definitely have to try that updated recipe. Where do you get those fruit juice powders? Also the flavor ideas all sound incredible

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                                        Jennifer @serotoninskeptic
                                        last edited by Jennifer

                                        My pleasure, @edouard. 🙂

                                        @Snow said in Carb suggestions?:

                                        @Jennifer Oo I definitely have to try that updated recipe. Where do you get those fruit juice powders? Also the flavor ideas all sound incredible

                                        If you try any of the flavors, let me know what you think? I get the juice powders from Amazon. The brand is Micro Ingredients:

                                        https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/31E32C21-F9E9-4AEC-9F8C-40574AE7E282?

                                        I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                                          serotoninskeptic @Jennifer
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                                          @Jennifer I will definitely let you know. Experimenting in the kitchen and making different ice cream flavors is so fun to me for no reason haha 😅

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                                            psi
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                                            Sucrose, lactose, fructose. 600g per day balanced by potassium from fruits or milk.

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