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    Lothric
    last edited by Aug 5, 2024, 10:43 PM

    I am trying to change my macro ratios to lean more carb heavy. I’ve been tracking my food intake the last few days and my fat intake is way too high. I’m usually getting around 140 grams of protein, 300g of carbs and 170 g of fat. What I would like to see is 500-600 g of carbs and significantly less fat.

    My issue is I cannot just sit and eat plain ass rice or potatoes. It’s insanely boring. I need some suggestion on good carb sources like fruit, specifically good high carb fruits. I can always add more white sugar. But I don’t want to do too much just from sugar. Also how to lower fat? It’s in everything I eat: dairy, meat, yogurt, cheese.

    TLDR: advice on good carb sources?

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      yerrag @Lothric
      last edited by Aug 5, 2024, 11:44 PM

      @Lothric

      If it's a fruit with high carb, you can find it in Cuban or Filipino plantains. Cuban ones are thin like the regular bananas. Filipino ones are wide.

      I boilf them usually with the skin. Once done, the flesh is soft and sweet.

      It can also be fried.

      As usual, eat only when it's ripe. When the peel turns yellow from green.

      It's a good carb source IMHO, as it's a fruit and doesn't contain anti-nutrients or toxins of grains, which are there to discourage humans or animals from eating the grains.

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      engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
      wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
      the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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        Pooooop @yerrag
        last edited by Aug 7, 2024, 11:26 PM

        @yerrag Can you rapid-fire some more good high-cal fruits or are those the best ones?

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          yerrag @Pooooop
          last edited by Aug 8, 2024, 12:40 AM

          @Pooooop Plaintains are unique. But I haven't traveled enough, so there could be other places with fruits that are carb-loaded.

          My cats like to eat the Philippine plantain when fried. That certainly makes them carbs as cats don't take to fruits.

          You can find them in Filipino or Asian stores. The Cuban kind isn't as tasty IMHO.

          Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
          engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
          wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
          the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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            GlucoseGal @Lothric
            last edited by Aug 9, 2024, 5:13 PM

            @Lothric it might be obvious, but you can lower your fat by going low fat for milk, cheese, etc. 0% Greek yoghurt, lean meats…

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              PrinceTrebata
              last edited by Aug 9, 2024, 7:45 PM

              7 pitted dates are like 110 carbs on Chronometer. Bananas are also good but I've seen some people say they're loaded with serotonin which may or may not be a problem.

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                Jennifer @Lothric
                last edited by Jennifer Aug 11, 2024, 6:33 PM Aug 11, 2024, 12:39 PM

                @Lothric, I like extra ripe bananas. They’re cheap (6 kg costs me around $6), filling and blended with some milk, they make really good soft-serve. I average 6 large bananas daily made into ice cream:

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                  onliest @Lothric
                  last edited by Aug 11, 2024, 6:55 PM

                  @Lothric Sugary beverages. Coke, lemonade, sugar in coffee, juice etc. is an easy way to get more carbs

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                    serotoninskeptic @yerrag
                    last edited by Aug 13, 2024, 10:41 AM

                    @yerrag some other high-cal and high carb fruits I can think of are dates, raisins, mamey sapote, durian

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                      yerrag @serotoninskeptic
                      last edited by yerrag Aug 13, 2024, 11:36 AM Aug 13, 2024, 10:59 AM

                      @Snow

                      Thanks, but I was talking about starches, and I'm just not sure if those fruits you mentioned are starches.

                      Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                      engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                      wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                      the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                        serotoninskeptic @yerrag
                        last edited by Aug 13, 2024, 11:03 AM

                        @yerrag Ah I didnt realize that. Yeah mamey sapote has a decent ammount of starch I believe. Also some in dates but they are mostly sugar.

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                          yerrag @serotoninskeptic
                          last edited by Aug 13, 2024, 11:49 AM

                          @Snow

                          I like sapote. We call it Chico in the Philippines. I consider it a fruit that isn't starch-based though.

                          My crude test is to feed it to my cats, and if they take to it regularly, it is a starch. I would give them cooked sweet potatoes, sweet potatoes, and saba (Philippine plantain) and they eat it just like they would eat bread and rice. Though I give them as treats, as they eat grated coconut with cooked fish mostly (for protein).As I don't think carbs are really all that suitable for cats, as I liken them to tigers and lions (though being human companions for a long time could have changed carbs as a suitable staple for cats, as they like to eat starch).

                          Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                          engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                          wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                          the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                            serotoninskeptic @yerrag
                            last edited by serotoninskeptic Aug 13, 2024, 12:06 PM Aug 13, 2024, 12:05 PM

                            @yerrag Chico and Mamey are two different fruits, both considered sapotes. Chico is the small less starchy variant. Mamey is large and the texture of a sweet potato.

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                              yerrag @yerrag
                              last edited by Aug 13, 2024, 12:10 PM

                              @yerrag

                              Gotcha. Thanks.

                              Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                              engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                              wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                              the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                edouard @Jennifer
                                last edited by edouard Aug 13, 2024, 1:08 PM Aug 13, 2024, 1:08 PM

                                @Jennifer Amazing, can you share your banana ice cream recipe?

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                                  serotoninskeptic @edouard
                                  last edited by serotoninskeptic Aug 13, 2024, 1:45 PM Aug 13, 2024, 1:44 PM

                                  @edouard She shared it with me before
                                  I believe 1 cup of raw milk, 1 medium sized frozen banana and 1 cup of another frozen fruit. I tried it in my Ninja Creami and it turned out really good. Frozen Strawberries and Frozen Jackfruit are good additions.

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                                    Jennifer @serotoninskeptic
                                    last edited by Jennifer Aug 13, 2024, 10:56 PM Aug 13, 2024, 10:50 PM

                                    Thank you for sharing the recipe with @edouard, @Snow. 🙂 I did some tweaking to it using fruit juice powders instead of the additional frozen fruit to prevent the iciness they impart to the banana ice cream and the result is a perfect, creamy, soft-serve consistency. The base recipe calls for:

                                    •2/3 a cup of milk—I use raw cow or coconut milk
                                    •2 1/2 large frozen bananas—peeled when spotty and cut into 1” slices prior to freezing for easier blending
                                    •2 teaspoons of sugar or honey—I use Wendell Estate’s prairie honey for its neutral flavor

                                    To make the ice cream, I first dissolve the sweetener (and any powdered additions) in the milk, then add the bananas and blend in a high-speed blender until smooth—about 1–2 minutes. I think the base is great as is, but I’ve tried many additions that turned out well. Some of my favorites include:

                                    •Jackfruit and honeydew melon—it reminds me of tutti frutti
                                    •Coconut milk and pineapple—it reminds me of a piña colada
                                    •Black raspberry and vanilla—I use vanilla bean powder
                                    •Cinnamon white chocolate chip—I use Ceylon cinnamon
                                    •Mint chocolate chip—I use a peppermint extract and semi-sweet chocolate chips
                                    •Coffee—I use an instant, CO2 processed decaf
                                    •Peanut butter and chocolate—I use PB2 powder in the ice cream and top it with homemade Magic Shell (190 g of chocolate chips melted with 3 tablespoons of refined coconut oil)

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                                      edouard @edouard
                                      last edited by Aug 14, 2024, 7:57 AM

                                      Thank you @Jennifer @Snow !

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                                        serotoninskeptic @Jennifer
                                        last edited by Aug 14, 2024, 10:35 AM

                                        @Jennifer Oo I definitely have to try that updated recipe. Where do you get those fruit juice powders? Also the flavor ideas all sound incredible

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                                          Jennifer @serotoninskeptic
                                          last edited by Jennifer Aug 15, 2024, 1:44 AM Aug 15, 2024, 1:41 AM

                                          My pleasure, @edouard. 🙂

                                          @Snow said in Carb suggestions?:

                                          @Jennifer Oo I definitely have to try that updated recipe. Where do you get those fruit juice powders? Also the flavor ideas all sound incredible

                                          If you try any of the flavors, let me know what you think? I get the juice powders from Amazon. The brand is Micro Ingredients:

                                          https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/31E32C21-F9E9-4AEC-9F8C-40574AE7E282?

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