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Is it safe to eat raw coconut meat, ground dehydrated or a coconut butter?

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    Insomniac
    last edited by Sep 30, 2024, 9:17 PM

    I really like coconut butter or making a course grind of shredded coconut. I tried finding how natives from where it has historically grown prepare it but it's been slow going. I like the idea of eating the the whole fruit but every post is about the oil.

    Do you think it's ok to eat raw and in large amounts? Any coconut based fruitarians out there?

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      TexugoDoMel
      last edited by Sep 30, 2024, 9:44 PM

      Now I don't eat as much because I'm testing very low-fat, but I used to like to eat shredded coconut with sugar in a 1:1 ratio, especially before going to the gym. I never had any problems.

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        serotoninskeptic @Insomniac
        last edited by Sep 30, 2024, 9:45 PM

        @Insomniac I love raw coconut meat. I believe Ray said it can be irritating to the gut or allergenic for some. If it digests well for you go for it. Its high in saturated fats and even has some sugar/minerals. I was fruitarian around a year and raw coconuts were my main fat source. Without coconuts in my diet i felt unsatiated and fatigued. I believe @Jennifer has a similar story.

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          Insomniac @serotoninskeptic
          last edited by Sep 30, 2024, 9:52 PM

          @Serotoninskeptic @TexugoDoMel Thanks both. That's exactly what I wanted to hear.

          I was eating about 1300cal of dehydrated coconut and no problems but I didn't do it very long.

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            serotoninskeptic @Insomniac
            last edited by Sep 30, 2024, 10:14 PM

            @Insomniac I remember seeing a post on RPF about Vedda communities in the South Eastern jungles of Sri Lanka who ate a coconut based diet and thrived with little to no heart disease.

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              Insomniac @serotoninskeptic
              last edited by Sep 30, 2024, 10:44 PM

              @Serotoninskeptic said in Is it safe to eat raw coconut meat, ground dehydrated or a coconut butter?:

              @Insomniac I remember seeing a post on RPF about Vedda communities in the South Eastern jungles of Sri Lanka who ate a coconut based diet and thrived with little to no heart disease.

              Thank you. I've not heard of the Vedda.

              There have been Polynesians that have eaten a huge percentage of there calories as coconut but I have no idea how they prepared it. I don't think they ate oil but I'm not sure.

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                A Former User @serotoninskeptic
                last edited by Sep 30, 2024, 10:48 PM

                @Serotoninskeptic

                For some reason, I have the intuitive feeling that you and Jennifer are the same person.

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                  Insomniac @A Former User
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                    serotoninskeptic @A Former User
                    last edited by Oct 1, 2024, 10:22 AM

                    @RawGoatMilk88 Haha no but we do have a lot in common its shocking. If it wasnt for her recovery log on the old RPF i dont know where i would be today to be honest. It was very inspiring infact my biggest inspiration in my decision to overall quit veganism and try a raw dairy-based diet. The healing i felt after years of malnourishment is undescribeable.

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                      Jennifer @serotoninskeptic
                      last edited by Oct 1, 2024, 6:57 PM

                      @Serotoninskeptic ❤️ I’m sorry you could relate to me, but at the same time I’m glad you did.
                      
                      If we’re the same person, can we be you this way I can finally reach the upper cabinets and pee standing up? 😁

                      And yes to coconut. It’s the only food that satiated me on the fruitarian diet. I consume coconut milk and young coconut meat regularly. I buy the coconut meat in bulk (18 lb) so my freezer is always stocked:

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                      I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                        serotoninskeptic @Jennifer
                        last edited by serotoninskeptic Oct 1, 2024, 7:18 PM Oct 1, 2024, 7:18 PM

                        @Jennifer LOL Can we be you so that our hormomes fluctuate drastically throughout the month controlling our mood. Wait.. that does sound so fun 😢

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                          yerrag @Insomniac
                          last edited by Oct 2, 2024, 4:08 AM

                          @Insomniac

                          Am just going to add that mature coconut, from where coconut milk and VCO comes from (young ones have soft flesh and little oil) in high in phosphate and low in calcium.

                          So use and eat accordingly, and rein in any tendency to over-indulge.

                          Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                          engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                          wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                          the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                            Insomniac
                            last edited by Insomniac Oct 2, 2024, 6:57 PM Oct 2, 2024, 5:23 PM

                            Thanks everyone for posting. Replacing the oil with coconut meat seems like the way to go. The processing creates opportunities for contamination. I didn't realize until recently how industrial chemicals get into everything.

                            It looks like the younger coconut is better eating but hopefully the regular organic stuff is not too bad and some day I can ugrade

                            Thanks @yerrag @Jennifer

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                              Jennifer @serotoninskeptic
                              last edited by Oct 2, 2024, 7:54 PM

                              LOL @Serotoninskeptic. I don’t even have mood swings when it’s “that time of the month” so no worries about fluctuating hormones.

                              @Insomniac, you’re welcome. 🙂

                              I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                                serotoninskeptic @Jennifer
                                last edited by Oct 2, 2024, 9:14 PM

                                @Jennifer Thats a great sign you have some healthy hormone balance !

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                                  Insomniac
                                  last edited by Oct 2, 2024, 9:21 PM

                                  Unfortunately I can't invent the all coconut diet because this guy already did.

                                  This man has been on a coconut-only diet for 24 years to manage GERD; is it healthy?
                                  https://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/balakrishnan-coconut-only-diet-gerd-shenaz-treasury-8396114/

                                  "People go to all lengths, in terms of their diet and exercise, to stay in shape and remain healthy. But Balakrishnan has, perhaps, transcended all boundaries as he has been on a coconut-only diet for 24 years to manage gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD). Sharing his story on Instagram, actor-travel influencer Shenaz Treasury wrote, “Leave a ❤️ for Mr Balakrishnan and his good health’ Can you imagine — this man has been on a coconut diet for 24 years. I was in shock — what about protein? But he said he’s never had better health in his life.”

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                                    LetTheRedeemed
                                    last edited by LetTheRedeemed Oct 2, 2024, 11:07 PM Oct 2, 2024, 11:06 PM

                                    I'm positive I heard Ray mention a history of bowel cancer in Southeast Asian regions where coconut meat is consumed.

                                    I could always be wrong, but for a testimony of one, I always had digestion problems when I would eat some healthfood snack with coconut meat

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                                      serotoninskeptic @LetTheRedeemed
                                      last edited by Oct 3, 2024, 9:17 AM

                                      @LetTheRedeemed Yea i think he did say it could be irritating to the gut. I think he didnt recommend coconut flour for the same reason

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                                        Jennifer @serotoninskeptic
                                        last edited by Oct 4, 2024, 12:11 PM

                                        @Serotoninskeptic said in Is it safe to eat raw coconut meat, ground dehydrated or a coconut butter?:

                                        @Jennifer Thats a great sign you have some healthy hormone balance !

                                        Actually, it’s no different when my thyroid is struggling and my cycle is off. It’s more like self-worth and honest communication so I have healthy boundaries and don’t bottle things up inside that would lead to upset. Hormones only heighten my emotions or more like make me aware that something actually bothers me because I was taught to suppress my emotions and ignore my needs, similar to the average man who was taught by society the harmful belief that men are meant to be stoic and are disposable. The most “temperamental” people I’ve known have been men. If I’m not mistaken, suicide is highest among men, too.

                                        I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                                          Jennifer
                                          last edited by Oct 4, 2024, 12:26 PM

                                          If I recall correctly, Ray thought mature coconut (and even coconut sugar) was potentially allergenic. That’s why he recommended refined coconut oil over virgin. Even when I was reacting to most foods, I never had an allergic reaction to mature coconut, which I’m grateful for because it’s one of my favorite foods.

                                          I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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