Where do I start 17m

[gg12]

Hello I'm 17 years old and found out about this space recently.
I am having weird symptoms like
low temps after meals
unquenchable thirst
excessive urination
always hungry
cant handle sugars at all
very skinny
some low t symptoms
I basically have only ate fat my whole life I basically have got 1-2 decent meals a day with my family but mostly just one good meal a day for the past 17 years.
All my meals my whole life have been PUFA and high fat and low sugar.
I'm trying to switch over to sugar but my body just doesn't know how to react and I get blood sugar swings.
I also blindly followed the ray peat diet and other advice so I ended up eating fat and carbs which worsened my symptoms

How do I get my body to be able to start glucose oxidation instead of fat oxidation.

[b1]

@gg12
What does a good meal mean if it was all high PUFA? Genuine question.

[S.Holmes]

@gg12 You might want to begin over on the glucose loading thread.

[Peatful]

@gg12

Hi

You’re young
You will be ok
Your body is resilient
Just be consistent - without becoming orthorexic

1- go low low PUFA
2- eat balanced macros. 40/30/30 or 50/20/20 c/f/p

You will slowly heal over time
Congratulations on taking charge of your health at such a young age

Best to you…

[Atman]

@S-Holmes said in Where do I start 17m:

@gg12 You might want to begin over on the glucose loading thread.

Don't do that, it's unnecessary.
Instead, limit your time "researching" for your "problem" on the internet.

@Peatful said in Where do I start 17m:

@gg12
You’re young
You will be ok
Your body is resilient
Just be consistent - without becoming orthorexic

1- go low low PUFA
2- eat balanced macros. 40/30/30 or 50/20/20 c/f/p

You will slowly heal over time
Congratulations on taking charge of your health at such a young age

Best to you…

This is all you need.
In addition, do some regular physical activity, go outside, and talk with people.

I highly recommend to stay away from fringe internet forums if you are that young and inexperienced. Their signal to noise ratio has become abysmal nowadays.
If you are intellectually inclined, read high quality source material from people worth listening to like Ray Peat instead.

[S.Holmes]

@Atman said in Where do I start 17m:

@S-Holmes said in Where do I start 17m:

@gg12 You might want to begin over on the glucose loading thread.

Don't do that, it's unnecessary.
Instead, limit your time "researching" for your "problem" on the internet.

@Peatful said in Where do I start 17m:

@gg12
You’re young
You will be ok
Your body is resilient
Just be consistent - without becoming orthorexic

1- go low low PUFA
2- eat balanced macros. 40/30/30 or 50/20/20 c/f/p

You will slowly heal over time
Congratulations on taking charge of your health at such a young age

Best to you…

This is all you need.
In addition, do some regular physical activity, go outside, and talk with people.

I highly recommend to stay away from fringe internet forums if you are that young and inexperienced. Their signal to noise ratio has become abysmal nowadays.
If you are intellectually inclined, read high quality source material from people worth listening to like Ray Peat instead.

Do you have experience with glucose?
If so, please share. I did what you suggested here and after more than 10 years, never fully recovered. Glucose has made the biggest difference for us (husband and myself). Glucose is pure brain food, and fuels every cell in the body. Certainly won't hurt and worth a try.

[LucH]

@gg12 said in Where do I start 17m:

cant handle sugars at all

Hi,
begin by reading Jessie Inaupsché book or this link to learn how to handle glycemia.
"Glucose revolution". + Mind bringing enough potassium (from vegetable soup, e.g.)
In short: mind the first meal of the days as it's going to influence the rest of the day.
Excerpt:
Glucose Revolution Jessie Inaupsché

• Alarming results: In healthy individuals, a simple bowl of cereal propelled their glucose levels into a red zone that only diabetics were supposed to reach.
• Calories are not the determining factor in weight gain, all things considered. Understand that +500 K/cal should not be a problem if...
• Moderating the blood sugar peak leads to less oxidative stress, fewer free radicals, less inflammation.
• Walking 10 to 20 minutes after the evening meal reduces side effects.
• Your breakfast conditions your entire day in an unexpected way. Studies show that after a breakfast that causes a big spike in glucose, hunger returns more quickly and blood sugar remains out of control all day.
• The ideal order of foods: fiber – proteins (with fat) – carbohydrates. The fibers ingested first considerably reduce the glucose peak caused by sugar.
• Learn to understand the blood sugar curve, with examples.
  https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t1925-glucose-revolution#26942
  (In French, with English links; translator needed)

[LucH]

@gg12 said in Where do I start 17m:

How do I get my body to be able to start glucose oxidation instead of fat oxidation.

Adapt to your metabolism. Peatful's advice is fine: 40 30 30.
Don't follow RP examples now since you must burn fuel very well and it's not the case. Wait until feel more energetic.
Each time you eat meat or eggs with some pufa's, take a tsp coconut oil.
Mind poultry fed with corn (omega-6) (yellow skin is bad).
I'll take aspirin (2 x 300 mg), e.g. at breakfast and evening meal.
I'll eat gouda cheese to get enough K2.
K1 is required if you take aspirin, to avoid bleeding => greens.
Example 1:
2 fruits
One slice of Gouda = 50 gr + 2 eggs
Example 2:
1 slice ham.
Jordan's oat 60 gr (5 tbsp.)+ 1/2 apple + 1 tbsp. raisins (without sulfite) + 3 tbsp. coconut shredded (required for SFA).
NB: No oil except olive oil for vegetables if required.
I'd try a carrot salad:
My receipt:
2 carrots shredded + 1 apple + 1 tbsp. cider vinegar (or lemon juice). For 2 portions.

[Atman]

@LucH said in Where do I start 17m:

Hi,
begin by reading Jessie Inaupsché book or this link to learn how to handle glycemia.

You are promoting a professional team of grifters selling overprized junk supplements to gullible people. The young, sexy "science" lady explains you everything about nutrition.

@S-Holmes said in Where do I start 17m:

Do you have experience with glucose?
If so, please share. I did what you suggested here and after more than 10 years, never fully recovered. Glucose has made the biggest difference for us (husband and myself). Glucose is pure brain food, and fuels every cell in the body. Certainly won't hurt and worth a try.

I have nothing against glucose, in fact, I eat several hundred grams of it every day in form of fruits, honey, potatoes, etc. . But I think OP does not have to read hundreds of obscure forum posts to understand that glucose is important, nor does he have to swallow pure glucose tablets in a meticulously timed fashion to get along. He might just drink a bit of grape juice or eat a piece of pineapple once he feels the appetite for it. But I guess this would be too simple...

[Jakeandpace]

For now, drink coffee, have fun and don’t get to attached to ideology of nutrition. It’s all a big balancing game, you don’t want to fuck your body up at your age. Keep reading and do minimal experimentation, if something isn’t working stop doing it.

Only advice is eat more (try make it whole foods, this is important), drink some coffee, do some exercise that isn’t too exhaustive and have fun. Please do not stress too much about your body at this age, that would be the most unhealthy thing to do.

[S.Holmes]

https://restoredhumanity.com/s/why.php

[DavidPS]

I was curious about how Peat.com would respond
@gg12 said in Where do I start 17m:

How do I get my body to be able to start glucose oxidation instead of fat oxidation.

Peatbot.com: To encourage your body to prioritize glucose oxidation over fat oxidation, you can consider the following strategies based on the context provided:

1. Increase Carbohydrate Intake: Incorporate more carbohydrates into your diet, as they are essential for glucose oxidation. Carbohydrates, including both starches and sugars, provide the necessary glucose for energy production.

2. Avoid Low-Carb Diets: Steer clear of low-carb diets that can lead to a reliance on fat oxidation. These diets can cause your body to shift towards burning fat instead of glucose, which is not ideal for optimal energy production.

3. Consume Sugars: Including some forms of sugar in your diet can help build glycogen stores and support glucose oxidation. Historically, some doctors found that allowing patients to consume sugar as desired helped improve their health.

4. Manage Stress: Stress can cause your body to switch from glucose to fat oxidation. Finding ways to manage stress, such as through relaxation techniques or lifestyle changes, can help maintain glucose oxidation.

5. Avoid Fasting: Fasting can shift your body's metabolism from glucose to fat oxidation. Instead, maintain regular meals that include carbohydrates to support glucose metabolism.

6. Monitor Fat Intake: Be cautious with the intake of polyunsaturated fatty acids, as they can activate stress metabolites and enzymes that promote fat oxidation.

By focusing on these strategies, you can help your body favor glucose oxidation, which is associated with a healthier metabolism and better energy production.

[gg12]

@b1 No some times we hae like beef stew or lamb chops and steak that isnt made with pufa but its the breakfast cereals and pb&js for lunch that overtime lead me to have a high pufa intake

[gg12]

@LucH said in Where do I start 17m:

Jessie Inaupsché

Bro I thought Mike Fave debunked that girl your trolling me

[gg12]

@LucH ah good to know thanks for some examples