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Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements)

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    Luke
    last edited by 15 days ago

    A women's magazine featured Taylor Swift's diet and since then I've religiously eaten only that every day.

    I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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      Hando-Jin
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      The T3 Maxxi guy on twitter pulls out some gems from old journals and is definitely worth a follow.

      Haidut, Roddy, the Bailey's, Tom Cowan, Anthony Colpo, Michael Yeadon, Sasha Latypova, The Virology controls project are all people I read/listen to when I can. With the exception of Roddy and Georgi most of them have a much narrower focus.

      There is not a day that goes by that I don't think about something Ray wrote or said.

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        Hando-Jin @Luke
        last edited by 15 days ago

        @Luke said in Did you replace the great Dr. Ray Peat with other health gurus or are you living gurulessly? (candidates welcome):

        A women's magazine featured Taylor Swift's diet and since then I've religiously eaten only that every day.

        I looked it up.

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          Peatful
          last edited by 15 days ago

          Ray was and is in a class by himself

          No one comparable

          The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

          SD

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            herenow @Luke
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            @Luke said in Did you replace the great Dr. Ray Peat with other health gurus or are you living gurulessly? (candidates welcome):

            A women's magazine featured Taylor Swift's diet and since then I've religiously eaten only that every day.

            lost a biochemist and gained a popstar 🙂

            Doesn't she just eat a normal diet? I don't see anything unusual.

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              DKJoeAgain @Peatful
              last edited by 15 days ago

              @Peatful not looking to offend here but wouldn't he resent this statement? I felt his whole ethos was take what you can from my findings and move on improving over them. The impression I got was that he would wince at the thought of being an incomparable pedagogue.

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                Luke @herenow
                last edited by 15 days ago

                @herenow said in Did you replace the great Dr. Ray Peat with other health gurus or are you living gurulessly? (candidates welcome):

                @Luke said in Did you replace the great Dr. Ray Peat with other health gurus or are you living gurulessly? (candidates welcome):

                A women's magazine featured Taylor Swift's diet and since then I've religiously eaten only that every day.

                lost a biochemist and gained a popstar 🙂

                Doesn't she just eat a normal diet? I don't see anything unusual.

                I was faced with the decision of either copying her diet or listening to her “music”. The decision was not a difficult one.

                I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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                  samson @herenow
                  last edited by 15 days ago

                  @herenow the next person like peat will be born of a peater, highly doubtful such a brilliant mind can come from this zogged generation

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                    Peatful @DKJoeAgain
                    last edited by Peatful 15 days ago 15 days ago

                    @DKJoeAgain said in Did you replace the great Dr. Ray Peat with other health gurus or are you living gurulessly? (candidates welcome):

                    @Peatful not looking to offend here but wouldn't he resent this statement? I felt his whole ethos was take what you can from my findings and move on improving over them. The impression I got was that he would wince at the thought of being an incomparable pedagogue.

                    No offense taken.

                    He never winced or deflected from any of the (possibly over the top) appreciation and admiration I gave him.

                    His work saved my life
                    And he received my gratitude graciously

                    This was more than one occasion

                    Ex:
                    I sent him an email of encouragement saying he was a father to a fatherless world-
                    He thank me; engaged; and said it was “always good to hear from you”

                    He knew his work was “important”- although he never saw himself that way
                    Which made him even rarer…

                    I go back and reread his articles and newsletters
                    Even after all these years I still find new data because I simply understand more….

                    The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                    SD

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                      BroJonas
                      last edited by 14 days ago

                      I’m guruless. But Peat lives on in us. I do enjoy all the new bio energetic content coming out. Kathleen Stewart is pretty cool

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                        Corngold
                        last edited by 14 days ago

                        Saladino, Lufkin, Atkins, all of the greats. They are my light. And Stalin and Mao.

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                          Corngold @BroJonas
                          last edited by 14 days ago

                          @BroJonas

                          Yes. There are a handful of Renaissance men currently including Peat. But it is up to the student to find them. But place not your trust in princes (or mortals).

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                            dapose
                            last edited by 14 days ago

                            No one has steered me back to my own self guidance better than Ray. Every week I go back to his articles and interviews with him. The politics and science ones the last few weeks. Ray taught people how to pay attention to themselves and care about your own perception/perspective.
                            Gurus tell you how to do what they are doing. Which can be very helpful! But also slightly wrong, and than you don’t know when to correct.
                            I think Georgi is the next best thinker to Ray fallowed by Kathleen Stewart and maybe T3uncoupled and Anabology gets an honorable mention for Synergizing weight loss information better than almost anyone.
                            I wouldn’t do half the things any of these people recommend but I like thinking about all these people’s ideas.
                            I think T3ucoupled deserves credit for being an artist. All the health people out there are severely lacking in creative thinking, larger consciences magical thinking like Ray had. Talking to cats and ants… yep. That shit is real as unsweet oj giving you a stomach ache. And no one talks about it. Old grow forest being The Way! Painting! We need to be painting and playing music and making art.
                            🥳🌞🌸

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                              herenow
                              last edited by herenow 14 days ago 14 days ago

                              RP died while doing interviews into his 80s. Georgi and the other names are too young. I require an elderly guru 🙂

                              Peter Rogers has some similar quirks and he's 61. He answers questions that Ray would answer like is this or that "safe." I found myself watching his youtubes even though his diet is humanly impossible and I realized that I was using him to replace Ray because I got used to Ray being around.

                              @samson That my opinion too. Ray's a product of an environment that doesn't exist

                              @Hando-Jin Tom Cowan is old enough but he's not quirky enough. Everything about him screams normal. I bet he likes watching football games and spending time with his grand kids. Not workable 😞

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                                Kvirion @herenow
                                last edited by 14 days ago

                                @herenow said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):

                                RP died while doing interviews into his 80s. Georgi and the other names are too young. I require an elderly guru 🙂

                                Agreed.

                                I'm trying to have a distributed guru now, i.e., learning from experts in different fields/arts and then assembling puzzles myself, but somehow with Ray in mind... Perceive. Think. Act...

                                A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                                Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                                There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                                And drinking largely sobers us again.
                                ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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                                  herenow @dapose
                                  last edited by herenow 13 days ago 13 days ago

                                  @dapose said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):

                                  I think Georgi is the next best thinker to Ray fallowed by Kathleen Stewart

                                  I checked 2 of her interviews out. She seems really smart and I'm glad you mentioned her but I can't replace the great wise old man Dr. Ray Peat with what appears to be a 19 year old woman. I think people here are more flexible than I am (well good for you then 🙂 )

                                  Georgi is great but he's too young and he's so busy that he only has time to guru at stop lights on the way to his day job.

                                  Danny Roddy is far too young and in all honesty he's not confident enough to inspire confidence. It's an issue.

                                  Some people have mentioned reading and listening to Ray's old stuff and that's great but things change and the next covid type event will need someone still with us.

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                                    Rah1woot
                                    last edited by Rah1woot 13 days ago 13 days ago

                                    Michael Hudson is a good modern voice on economics. Especially the book "Superimperialism" discussing the US-oriented structure of the international monetary system, how IMF "aid" is predatory lending, etc. But not a crackhead arguing for a reactionary return to commodity money a la bitcoin. More so a sovereign generation of credit.

                                    The rapid-fire speech and encyclopedic knowledge in older age, and the resolute opinionated dissolution of a subject traditionally thought of as inscrutable and meaningless ("modern monetary theory" -- scientific nutrition) strike me as Peaty.

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                                      eduardo-crispino @Rah1woot
                                      last edited by 13 days ago

                                      @Rah1woot Superabundance is a pretty decent book about economics too

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                                        DKJoeAgain @Peatful
                                        last edited by 12 days ago

                                        @Peatful it's awesome that you had actual correspondence with him, I suppose I'm a bit more sensitive of ascribing a portion of health or biology to his name due to what happened with the toxinforum, I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a bit triggering to watch.
                                        Regardless he changed my life with his analysis of William Blake. Take any nutrition/lifestyle advice aside that article alone changed the way I look at things in general drastically.

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                                          herenow
                                          last edited by herenow 12 days ago 12 days ago

                                          I think this is everyone mentioned:
                                          Haidut
                                          Roddy
                                          Brad
                                          the Bailey's
                                          Tom Cowan
                                          Anthony Colpo
                                          Michael Yeadon
                                          Sasha Latypova
                                          T3 Maxxi guy on twitter
                                          Hitler 😞
                                          Dr Peter Rogers
                                          Kathleen Stewart
                                          Taylor Swift
                                          Grimhood & Andra (couldn't find them online)
                                          Paul Saladino
                                          Robert Lufkin MD
                                          Atkins
                                          Stalin 😞
                                          Mao 😞
                                          T3uncoupled
                                          Anabology
                                          Michael Hudson (a perfect age 86 but you need to be in the market for a finance guru)

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