Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements)
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@Luke said in Did you replace the great Dr. Ray Peat with other health gurus or are you living gurulessly? (candidates welcome):
A women's magazine featured Taylor Swift's diet and since then I've religiously eaten only that every day.
I looked it up.
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Ray was and is in a class by himself
No one comparable
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@Luke said in Did you replace the great Dr. Ray Peat with other health gurus or are you living gurulessly? (candidates welcome):
A women's magazine featured Taylor Swift's diet and since then I've religiously eaten only that every day.
lost a biochemist and gained a popstar
Doesn't she just eat a normal diet? I don't see anything unusual.
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@Peatful not looking to offend here but wouldn't he resent this statement? I felt his whole ethos was take what you can from my findings and move on improving over them. The impression I got was that he would wince at the thought of being an incomparable pedagogue.
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@herenow said in Did you replace the great Dr. Ray Peat with other health gurus or are you living gurulessly? (candidates welcome):
@Luke said in Did you replace the great Dr. Ray Peat with other health gurus or are you living gurulessly? (candidates welcome):
A women's magazine featured Taylor Swift's diet and since then I've religiously eaten only that every day.
lost a biochemist and gained a popstar
Doesn't she just eat a normal diet? I don't see anything unusual.
I was faced with the decision of either copying her diet or listening to her “music”. The decision was not a difficult one.
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@herenow the next person like peat will be born of a peater, highly doubtful such a brilliant mind can come from this zogged generation
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@DKJoeAgain said in Did you replace the great Dr. Ray Peat with other health gurus or are you living gurulessly? (candidates welcome):
@Peatful not looking to offend here but wouldn't he resent this statement? I felt his whole ethos was take what you can from my findings and move on improving over them. The impression I got was that he would wince at the thought of being an incomparable pedagogue.
No offense taken.
He never winced or deflected from any of the (possibly over the top) appreciation and admiration I gave him.
His work saved my life
And he received my gratitude graciouslyThis was more than one occasion
Ex:
I sent him an email of encouragement saying he was a father to a fatherless world-
He thank me; engaged; and said it was “always good to hear from you”He knew his work was “important”- although he never saw himself that way
Which made him even rarer…I go back and reread his articles and newsletters
Even after all these years I still find new data because I simply understand more…. -
I’m guruless. But Peat lives on in us. I do enjoy all the new bio energetic content coming out. Kathleen Stewart is pretty cool
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Saladino, Lufkin, Atkins, all of the greats. They are my light. And Stalin and Mao.
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Yes. There are a handful of Renaissance men currently including Peat. But it is up to the student to find them. But place not your trust in princes (or mortals).
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No one has steered me back to my own self guidance better than Ray. Every week I go back to his articles and interviews with him. The politics and science ones the last few weeks. Ray taught people how to pay attention to themselves and care about your own perception/perspective.
Gurus tell you how to do what they are doing. Which can be very helpful! But also slightly wrong, and than you don’t know when to correct.
I think Georgi is the next best thinker to Ray fallowed by Kathleen Stewart and maybe T3uncoupled and Anabology gets an honorable mention for Synergizing weight loss information better than almost anyone.
I wouldn’t do half the things any of these people recommend but I like thinking about all these people’s ideas.
I think T3ucoupled deserves credit for being an artist. All the health people out there are severely lacking in creative thinking, larger consciences magical thinking like Ray had. Talking to cats and ants… yep. That shit is real as unsweet oj giving you a stomach ache. And no one talks about it. Old grow forest being The Way! Painting! We need to be painting and playing music and making art.
🥳
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RP died while doing interviews into his 80s. Georgi and the other names are too young. I require an elderly guru
Peter Rogers has some similar quirks and he's 61. He answers questions that Ray would answer like is this or that "safe." I found myself watching his youtubes even though his diet is humanly impossible and I realized that I was using him to replace Ray because I got used to Ray being around.
@samson That my opinion too. Ray's a product of an environment that doesn't exist
@Hando-Jin Tom Cowan is old enough but he's not quirky enough. Everything about him screams normal. I bet he likes watching football games and spending time with his grand kids. Not workable
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@herenow said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):
RP died while doing interviews into his 80s. Georgi and the other names are too young. I require an elderly guru
Agreed.
I'm trying to have a distributed guru now, i.e., learning from experts in different fields/arts and then assembling puzzles myself, but somehow with Ray in mind... Perceive. Think. Act...
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@dapose said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):
I think Georgi is the next best thinker to Ray fallowed by Kathleen Stewart
I checked 2 of her interviews out. She seems really smart and I'm glad you mentioned her but I can't replace the great wise old man Dr. Ray Peat with what appears to be a 19 year old woman. I think people here are more flexible than I am (well good for you then
)Georgi is great but he's too young and he's so busy that he only has time to guru at stop lights on the way to his day job.
Danny Roddy is far too young and in all honesty he's not confident enough to inspire confidence. It's an issue.
Some people have mentioned reading and listening to Ray's old stuff and that's great but things change and the next covid type event will need someone still with us.
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Michael Hudson is a good modern voice on economics. Especially the book "Superimperialism" discussing the US-oriented structure of the international monetary system, how IMF "aid" is predatory lending, etc. But not a crackhead arguing for a reactionary return to commodity money a la bitcoin. More so a sovereign generation of credit.
The rapid-fire speech and encyclopedic knowledge in older age, and the resolute opinionated dissolution of a subject traditionally thought of as inscrutable and meaningless ("modern monetary theory" -- scientific nutrition) strike me as Peaty.
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@Rah1woot Superabundance is a pretty decent book about economics too
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@Peatful it's awesome that you had actual correspondence with him, I suppose I'm a bit more sensitive of ascribing a portion of health or biology to his name due to what happened with the toxinforum, I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a bit triggering to watch.
Regardless he changed my life with his analysis of William Blake. Take any nutrition/lifestyle advice aside that article alone changed the way I look at things in general drastically. -
I think this is everyone mentioned:
Haidut
Roddy
Brad
the Bailey's
Tom Cowan
Anthony Colpo
Michael Yeadon
Sasha Latypova
T3 Maxxi guy on twitter
Hitler
Dr Peter Rogers
Kathleen Stewart
Taylor Swift
Grimhood & Andra (couldn't find them online)
Paul Saladino
Robert Lufkin MD
Atkins
Stalin
Mao
T3uncoupled
Anabology
Michael Hudson (a perfect age 86 but you need to be in the market for a finance guru) -
@herenow said in Did you replace Dr. Ray Peat after he died or are you living gurulessly? (pls include serviceable rayplacements):
I think this is everyone mentioned:
You should also include Peat's bibliography which is probably over 100 authors/scientists and thousands of books and papers. Somebody posted the library link on here. My "guru" list was satire. There aren't gurus, or they're mostly scam artists. But there are teachers, experts, and explorers.
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@herenow Peatbot!
