How do I get thin again, Peating fixed my health but made me put on a lot of fat
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@TeaChedda thanks. Why never water?
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@thyroidchor27 its a waist, if Im thirsty I can always get hydrated with something that tastes good and contains vitamins, minerals, or at least sugar and caffeine. If you like it, I guess it'd be okay, but I generally do not have any issues with getting a decent amount of calories from drinks. Which ties into how I dont eat large meals, keeping my stomach small.
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@thyroidchor27 bhai how TF are you struggling to loose weight/fat with all the peaty knowledge you have. Like it was during the start of this year I got introduced to RayPeat and peating but before that I was the same gym bro decently indulged into PUFA. Im not saying PUFAs and all the horrorible vegetables i ate in moderation helped me loose 20kgs in 6months - counting calories, cardio, long walks, water fasting, all did wonders for me. Do you still think to your high IQ self it's even worth peating without tracking calories thinking that you'll natural lean at some point? Counting calories = fat loss. How do you struggle with this?
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@onliest said in How do I get thin af, Peating made me fat subhooman:
@thyroidchor27 someone on twitter, can't remember the @, was taking 15mg daily and gained 10-15lbs in a few months without diet changes.
I took 2-4mg/day K2 for four months while bulking and gained 35 lbs. Impossible to quantify how much was bone for me.
I'm currently taking 4g aspirin+ 10-12 mg K2 on a cut.
I’ve used Kuinone a lot, my bones feel really dense and heavy.
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@kyrre never Peated to lose weight . I even actively gained weight at the start to reduce all my symptoms.
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@GreekDemiGod Did you get taller or experience any limb lengthening during that bulk?
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I think walking is the best
and lowering fat intake. Try just having at least one meal a day that is pretty low fat and high in calcium. I find it difficult to reduce fat so that is something that has worked for me just focusing on one meal a day to really get fat intake lower. -
I've struggled with gaining weight while peating. In the beginning you just get too excited about eating sugar and eating more. I've cut back on calories, started taking NDT and began lifting more often while walking 10k steps every day. I am losing weight now for almost three months, while getting stronger. I've cut back on fat and starches, since I found I could easily overeat potatoes fried in butter. I've started to eat greek yogurt and cottage cheese for protein and feel great on it. I drink skimmed milk, OJ and coffee with sugar and (some) cream. You just need to eat untill you're full, while not overdoing it. Hopes this helps.
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@Ruben ok I’ll try. The problem is I’m fat af so I can’t tell if I’m losing fat or not as results only show up last 8 percent bf ( 18 to 10). I have been getting great muscle mass and strength but weight on scale is stuck, so maybe I’m putting on muscle mass while losing weight which would be great. I also started working out a month ago and my face seems more defined but can’t tell changes in the physique as too much fat stored there
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@thyroidchor27 Do you take thyroid? It can take a while for your thyroid function to improve, but you'll want to lose the weight slow and steady for it to be a permanent change. I suggest safe heavy lifting, focus explosive movements, but not stress your body too much. You could also reduce inflammation by taking aspirin and/or focus of batteling water retention by upping you dopamine (which lowers prolactin). You'll need to rediscover how much food you really need for proper function, if you're not losing weight you probably eat too much and just cutting back a few hundred calories a day will make you lose the weight slowely while not getting a stress response from starving yourself.
edit: I see you take thyroid. It is important you take your thyroid 30 mins away from consuming coffee, because coffee will inhibit thyroid absorption. After I stopped doing this, I lost more weight at a faster pace. I would say focus on moving more, will make you feel better as well.
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@Ruben thanks I’m rn looking at fire in a bottle videos on fat loss . I am also considering going gelatin and skim milk making up most of my protein intake . I take t3 throughout the day so I don’t think the coffee would do much in that regard. I’ve also started taking low dose niacinamide as it has been shown to increase NAD plus. I’m hopeful it doesn’t increase NADH as well ( I don’t know how the mechanism works I hope someone like @Ecstatic_Hamster / @Amazoniac can clarify). I just read a study saying t3 browning of white fat is inhibited because resistance is built although I’m not sure how true that is and at what dosage. Apparently they used an adipose targeting peptide which reduced this inhibition and the combo produced much greater weight loss. I also walk a lot and enjoy lifting ( although higher reps as I’m restricted to dumbbells now but go to failure every time). One thing I need fixing is my dogshit sleep schedule I go to sleep around 4 am but get 10 hours. I don’t know how bad that is. I’ll be getting theanine soon which has also shown increase in BAT and modulation of gut bacteria towards anti obesity so that’s good. Stearic acid is also something I’m exploring.
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@thyroidchor27 sounds good. You could also consider taurine for better fat digestion. The niacinamide should be 4 times a day 30 to 50mg, according to Peat on a youtube segment. I notice I do better when I take enough zinc, I use zinc gluconate. I think getting some taurine while cutting back on the fat a bit is the way to go. I also like vitamin b1 (HCL), and mct oil (c8/c10) for overall energy and metabolism
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@GreekDemiGod I use Kuinone 2-6 drops everyday since a november but don't see changements (just my wisdom teeth erupting), especially on the weight balance. Is there something else that "activates" the k2 mk4? Usually I see calcium and d3, and I'm consuming a lot of raw milk cheese everyday. However my D3 levels are in the low range.
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@Ruben Thanks, Here is the study I was referring: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-35470-4
Do you think MCT oil is vastly superior to coconut oil?
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20,000 steps a day, get moving fatso
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@thyroidchor27 Nope. Ray said it wasn't. And it isn't. it can cause inflammation because it's not accompanied by the proper distribution of fats. Better to just have coconut oil, as Ray recommended.
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@The-New-Sun I wont Im a God I shouldnt be cursed with locomotion
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@thyroidchor27
Ray Peat talks about people on 500-600 calorie diets preventing tissue loss by supplementing minerals (egg shell, baking soda, salt, sugar) -
@thyroidchor27 I don't know if it is for fat loss purposes, I would imagine so. I use it for fighting candida. If you read ray's article on coconut oil, he talks about the medium chain and short chain properties of coconot oil, which is the mct oil (c8 and c10). In my experience it works just fine for reducing inflammationi and fat loss, but could also be the other things I'm doing.
