Reversal of hair loss in Mice with “sugar gel”
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Ray talked about a glucose solution for regrowing hair
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@Hando-Jin Folks might want to look at these:
https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/the-cause-of-baldness.20374/page-44#post-541674
Just a couple things that I found in a quick search on the Peat site, which is still active, with a massive amount of good information.
And the shrill, hyper-religious, anti-Vitamin A rants from the admin are gone. -
Hey thanks!
I got so caught up in md_a's 'RENIN-ANGIOTENSIN-ALDOSTERONE SYSYTEM And HAIR LOSS PROCESS' thread I missed the simple ticket.
I'll try the honey trick. I'm long past caring about the cosmetic appearance of temporal loss. But I like the science.
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@AinmBeo said in Reversal of hair loss in Mice with “sugar gel”:
And the shrill, hyper-religious, anti-Vitamin A rants from the admin are gone.
Hmm, yes I've noticed a lot of the vitamin A toxin spam is gone the past few weeks lol. Didn't he have a massive falling out with the vit A toxin cult leader? The euphoria phase is over I guess, he's probably out searching for the next health fad
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@ThinPicking nice, look forward to hearing how it goes
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Thanks for the thread links, I’ll check them out.
Nah, they realized vit A avoidance wasn’t the answer to all their problems so they’re quietly pretending they didn’t become the most authoritarian jokesters for 5 months.
I don’t mind if members or admin disagree with vitamin A and have dumb views, but I do care about how the admin treated people, then elevated yesmen. Things like banning a user because he didn’t call Mercola “Dr Mercola,” when such wasn’t even a prerequisite for Ray Peat! So, until the law and order admin takes ownership of his toxic lawless and unorderly behavior and apologizes like a man, I will not support his forum one iota.
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That whole thing blew up right as I was trying to make an account for the first time, I had just been a reader for several years. Won't ever sign up now unless it changes hands to someone new. It's crazy the amount of damage that admin did in such a short amount of time to his own forum.
On the subject of sugar for hair growth, I'm experimenting with it. Anyone else? I'll probably alternate between honey/sugar just to cover bases.
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@Hearthfire I do wish to clarify that I don’t mean to bully others into not joining the forum. But those are my strongly worded reasons, lol.
Yes I’m experimenting with d-ribose, and will likely try adding dextrose. It would probably be cool to dig around about any benefits of fructose directly on the cell (given that’s 50% of table sugar and higher in honey).
Look forward to seeing what everyone discovers.
Ps, I’m doing a topical blend of methylene blue, niacinamide, and aspirin once or twice a day
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Reversal of hair loss in Mice with “sugar gel”:
@Hearthfire I do wish to clarify that I don’t mean to bully others into not joining the forum. But those are my strongly worded reasons, lol.
Yes I’m experimenting with d-ribose, and will likely try adding dextrose. It would probably be cool to dig around about any benefits of fructose directly on the cell (given that’s 50% of table sugar and higher in honey).
Look forward to seeing what everyone discovers.
Ps, I’m doing a topical blend of methylene blue, niacinamide, and aspirin once or twice a day
where do we buy the gel??
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@wester130 nowhere, we be makin our own, king
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@LetTheRedeemed Do you have a source for sugar absorbing easily through the skin?
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@wester130 Just using google ol' white table sugar and honey.
I haven't done too much searching, but I doubt many people have done a long term attempt at applying sugar for regrowth and been consistent at it. The nature of it is just too messy for people to deal with.
This is the conversation Danny Roddy had with Ray Peat:
Danny Roddy: Okay, that makes sense. I read a few times, Kealey. I might be saying his name wrong. Adachi and a few of the other hair loss guys talk about how the hair follicle is extremely glucose-dependent and that it needs a source of glucose. Then a few other people say it's relatively independent of the circulation of glucose in the blood. They were thinking that the glycogen was part of that independence, but if the circulation is reduced from the low thyroid function and the oxygen supply is reduced, the hair follicle obviously suffers. That's where the oxidative stress and lipid peroxidation come in, really harming ... Go ahead.
Ray Peat: Yeah. All of the stresses tend to interfere with glucose oxidation. When you're stressed, you liberate free fatty acids as an energy source, but those poison the ability to oxidize oxygen, so it creates a local diabetes. Have you heard anything about whether diabetics have more baldness or less baldness?
Danny Roddy: I read that the insulin resistance, so-called, is related to baldness. Then somebody on one of my YouTube videos said that he had worked extensively with type 1 diabetics who were all using insulin, and he was like, "I've never noticed any of them being bald before." I don't know if that was accurate or not.
Ray Peat: I've been thinking that with a concentrated glucose solution, you could probably activate hair growth just by keeping your scalp moistened with glucose.
Danny Roddy: That's funny because people have emailed me that, asking if that was a viable therapy. I was like, "I have no idea. I don't know how that would work." It made me think of when you would say things like people use honey for scars and things like that. Go ahead.
Ray Peat: People are actually suggesting applying insulin topically to the skin, but that's a relatively much bigger molecule than glucose. I think there's a chance that either of those can get in, in a quantity that could help.
Danny Roddy: The insulin is helping by what? Stupid question but just supplying the hair follicle with glucose?
Ray Peat: With energy, yeah.
Dexstrose powder would probably be even better than sugar, as it's pure glucose right?
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@Cicero The skin is way more permeable than mainstream sources would have you believe. Most people are super clogged up with chemicals, dirt, and other junk.
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@Cicero dang I forgot... upon continued googling I'm skeptical I was right... we'll see. of course Ray suggested keeping scalp moistened with glucose could work... AKA my water-disolved d-ribose experiment. I'll keep digging around, I may use DMSO.
I also plan to add dextrose.
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i added ~1 tbsp of white granulated sugar to my 4oz shot glass of warm water bloo mixture, and it dissolved very easily. actually granulated sugar dissolves extremely easily in warm water. i only microwaved this water for 30 sec it wasnt even that hot. ill microwave it for 2 min tomorrow and then add 1 tbsp of bloo and see how many tbsp of granulated sugar i can dissolve after.
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@Chud nice.
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I was thinking about using hyaluronic acid on my scalp to soften my skin. Maybe that would be a good way to keep your scalp "moistened with glucose", combining the glucose with hyaluronic acid.
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@Hearthfire you're right. He's an authoritarian.
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@Cicero Interesting. Gonna research that...
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@Cicero hyaluronic acid is a scam - it dehydrates the skin, glycerin is better as a moisturizer.
Look up Shereene Idriss (dermatologist) on hyaluronic acid:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RnrMi-PbBWA&pp=ygUgU2hlcmVlbmUgaWRyaXNzIGh5YWx1cm9uaWMgYWNpZCA%3D
