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    • serotoninskepticS
      serotoninskeptic @yerrag
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      @yerrag Ray may have always been thin but that doesnt mean he was always metabolically healthy. He was hypothyroid for a good portion of his life and i believe so was danny after trying carnivore.

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        yerrag @serotoninskeptic
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        @Sugarnotsnow

        That may be the case with them, but they were probably neither overweight nor obese. I didn't correspond with Danny, but I did with Ray. I asked if he could devote a newsletter on how to become metabolically healthy coming from an overweight/diabetic/metabolically challenged state, and he had no answer to that.

        But Ray was right on point about needing to go cold turkey on PUFA for 4 years on the way to metabolic health. That probably imho id the single best thing one can do, if not for members in the RPF that kept entertaining the thought of cutting corners that dissuaded members from going on that long process. Most members are not the long journey turtle type. Most are the jackrabbit stumbling type.

        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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          serotoninskeptic @yerrag
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          @yerrag Yea most people dont want to hear that they need years and years to heal their metabolism. They want to know a quick fix, a fad diet, something that will make them keep of the pounds fast. But thats just not realistic.

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            yerrag @serotoninskeptic
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            @Sugarnotsnow

            Yet most if not all of my successes in health improvement are of this long drawn out type. It pays to know what you are doing so you have the confidence to bear it out thru the long haul.

            Time goes by quickly though when you are busy, and it is harder when you weigh yourself every day when you want to lose weight. But when you approach it like zen, you don't have to sweat it out. It will just come.

            Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
            engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
            wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
            the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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              serotoninskeptic @yerrag
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              @yerrag That last paragraph is perfectly said. In my experience hyperfixating on weight loss and thinking about it every single day is a recipe for disaster. When you dont focus on it so much and get a good routine going its quite simple to get to a healthy weight.

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                yerrag @serotoninskeptic
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                @Sugarnotsnow

                When you have a good coach, and Ray had been s very good coach.

                Otoh, when you are like my eldest sister, who insists on following Youtube experts, it will be hard slogging through. It's always about getting there, where there is infinity. The breakthrough is around the corner, and this is the moment, finally - not!

                Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                  Ecstatic_Hamster
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                  Control pause gets worse within 10 or 15 minutes of eating anything, especially protein, and especially foods you aren’t tolerant of. The CP diminishes for 3 or so hours. I have heard it has to do with ions soaked up in the process of creating hydrochloric acid for stomach digestive stage, and these ions are then picked back up into the body. I doubt this is the best explanation but it kind of explains why meat lowers CP more than eating fruit does.

                  It does not explain the food intolerance part.

                  As far as the Ray Peat diet (whatever that is) resulting in weight gain I find that when I limited sugar consumption and consumed more starch, I was able to easily lose body fat. That is the way most of the thin world eats.

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                    josh
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                    Thankyou! @LetTheRedeemed

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                      jamezb46 @LetTheRedeemed
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                      @LetTheRedeemed

                      That is why I love my squid and eggs 🙂

                      In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                        josh @Ecstatic_Hamster
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                        @Ecstatic_Hamster said in Ideas for getting more CO2 into your everyday routine:

                        Control pause gets worse within 10 or 15 minutes of eating anything, especially protein, and especially foods you aren’t tolerant of. The CP diminishes for 3 or so hours. I have heard it has to do with ions soaked up in the process of creating hydrochloric acid for stomach digestive stage, and these ions are then picked back up into the body. I doubt this is the best explanation but it kind of explains why meat lowers CP more than eating fruit does.

                        It does not explain the food intolerance part.

                        As far as the Ray Peat diet (whatever that is) resulting in weight gain I find that when I limited sugar consumption and consumed more starch, I was able to easily lose body fat. That is the way most of the thin world eats.

                        Thanks @Ecstatic_Hamster i missed this earlier! Iv always noticed an initial lessening of symptoms immediately after eating i think from the pleasure of it, then followed by a worsening of symptoms about 30mins later as energy is taken for digestion. Interesting to see how this patches in with cp!

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