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    Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. An obese, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside)

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    • yerragY
      yerrag @happyhanneke
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      @happyhanneke Ray says progesterone allows for enough hepcidin peptide to keep a check on free iron to keep bacteria at bay. Infection and inflammation is what causes prostate issues. And if Trump is sufficient in hormones and steroids as part of having good metabolic health, he won't have prostate cancer issues .

      Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
      engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
      wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
      the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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        happyhanneke @yerrag
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        @yerrag

        Alright, nobody's talking about cancer. At 78 there's just very few males who don't have some issues with peeing due to their prostate being enlarged. That's it.

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        • InsomniacI
          Insomniac @happyhanneke
          last edited by Insomniac

          @happyhanneke Thanks for confirming my observations. I'm impressed when someone that age can go for a walk without falling, drive at night, chew a steak, turn on a computer, sit through a conversation without nodding off...This is the reality for most people his age but a lot of them already show major cognitive impairment and I wouldn't trust them to run anything. Too risky

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          • samsonS
            samson @Insomniac
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            @Insomniac a meaningful and fulfilling life can make up for a lot of things

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            • InsomniacI
              Insomniac @samson
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              @samson said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

              @Insomniac a meaningful and fulfilling life can make up for a lot of things

              I think that it may be an underestimated variable and probably not focused on because there's no product to sell for that. But I also agree with Killgore that he had a good genetic foundation.

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                happyhanneke @Insomniac
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                @Insomniac
                My husband is like that. Although he's 70 but he still works full time as a project manager building homes. He never exercises, drinks daily and does not worry about what he eats. Although we do not eat shitty food because I buy the groceries and cook. He also eats only once a day and has done that all his life.

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                • InsomniacI
                  Insomniac @happyhanneke
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                  @happyhanneke said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                  @Insomniac
                  He also eats only once a day and has done that all his life.

                  That is really interesting. Very few people will maintain a omad routine their whole life.

                  Do you think it helped him age slower?

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                    happyhanneke @Insomniac
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                    @Insomniac
                    I don't know. He's not interested in any of these things. He's passionate about his work and that's what he thinks about. It's pointless for me too to text or call when he's in the zone, he's not going to acknowledge it. I'm used to is he's a good man.
                    He has done this all his life just because food doesn't interest him during the day. He's too occupied in his head. If he comes home during the day and I put food in front of him he will eat it.

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                    • InsomniacI
                      Insomniac @happyhanneke
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                      @happyhanneke I see what you're saying. I have heard the story of people who fall apart after retiring. The like the idea of it but the reality was the job kept them going. That sounds like Trump for sure. However if the job is really high stress then it cuts the other way too.

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                      • yerragY
                        yerrag @Insomniac
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                        @Insomniac

                        External stress is overrated. It should actually be seen as hormetic. It keeps the saw sharpened. As long as you can outrun or outsmart the predator, you are fine. And good internal health centering on optimal metabolism is what counts most.

                        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                        • GardnerG
                          Gardner @yerrag
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                          @yerrag
                          The only reason he is comfy with his prostate is finasteride. I took it for year or so it just felt so good. He was taking finasteride for hair growth, not sure if he keeps taking it now.
                          But having hair allows him to absorb cosmic energy directly into brain ... and feel super confident.

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                            Insomniac @yerrag
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                              • yerragY
                                yerrag @Insomniac
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                                @Insomniac

                                I guess it is safe to say that a president is entitled to the best health care that the hospital complex has conjures up.

                                And the best is coming up short. And what you are seeing is accelerated aging. Not from the external stress, but from the side effects of iatrogenic intervention by the top witch doctors funded by healthcare insurance.

                                Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                • yerragY
                                  yerrag @Gardner
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                                  @Goodman said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                                  @yerrag
                                  The only reason he is comfy with his prostate is finasteride. I took it for year or so it just felt so good. He was taking finasteride for hair growth, not sure if he keeps taking it now.
                                  But having hair allows him to absorb cosmic energy directly into brain ... and feel super confident.

                                  I find it hard to believe Finasteride works wonders the way you ascribe it to. It is a pharma drug, a doesn't improve health, but just covers up symptoms.

                                  I think Trump is healthy enough that despite taking Finasteride, he is doing as well as he is now.

                                  Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                  engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                  wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                  the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                  • KilgoreK
                                    Kilgore @Insomniac
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                                    @Insomniac Can I see it from the back?

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                                    • KilgoreK
                                      Kilgore @Insomniac
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                                      @Insomniac said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                                      @yerrag said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                                      External stress is overrated. It should actually be seen as hormetic.

                                      The job seems to have hormeticated Joe Biden a stroke soon after getting elected 🙂

                                      Behold presidential hormesis:
                                      12 Before-And-After Photos Of U.S. Presidents Showing How They Aged In Office
                                      https://www.shared.com/us-presidents-before-and-after/
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                                      I was watching his victory speech and thinking to myself how he seems to have more hair today than 8 years ago lol.
                                      Only an Aryan like Trump could be capable of something like this.

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                                        Corngold @Insomniac
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                                        @Insomniac

                                        He doesn't work a physical job. He isn't stressed. He's a billionaire. He's probably taking a lot of top notch drugs and supplements like all celebrities are.

                                        I think the Biden dementia thing at this point was just a hoax. Body double? Mask? It's all TV.

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                                        • GardnerG
                                          Gardner @Corngold
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                                          @Corngold
                                          physical jobs like people do on farms are very stress-lowering. But these kind of people choose stress to drive them

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                                          • ?
                                            A Former User
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                                            theres honestly something peaty about mcdonalds . apart from the deep fried stuff. just going there for some burgers and coke, maybe a soft serve and an apple pie after. wonder if he actualy eats it frequently

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