Getting desperate with this debilitating and super weird symptom (hypersalivation)
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Most people wouldn't believe me if i told them about this symptom that is fucking with my life hard. I have very bad case of hypersalivation. Like my mouth is completely full of saliva all the time, i swallow and its there 10 seconds later. Its f*cking absurd.
This shit started several months ago. Ive had what i assume a SIBO for 10 years now and i have tried many things and keep trying, but this salivating symptom is quite new. (not sure if they are related, possibly)
I have to keep swallowing every 10 seconds or i cant even speak. I have been following Peats work for 6 years and my diet should be on point. I dont eat PUFAs, i eat dairy alot, beef, fruits. Stopping starch doesn't seem to make much difference.My guess is this symptom is because one of the following: my gut, my oral health or my nervous system. I have chronic bloating, burping and air feeling. I haven't seen a dentist in 15 years, but i dont think my teeth are that bad that justifies this symptom.
What supps im taking:
-300 mg T cypionate / week. Almost a year now. I dont want to stop this, it improves my well being and helps with bodybuilding. Was initially on even higher dose and didnt have this salivating symptom back then so i dont think they are connected. I have tried crashing my estrogen to see if it helps, it doesn't. Too low estrogen is hell, but that is subject for another time.-Vitamin D 10k IU daily. I have taken it before and it have never caused problems.
Experimenting with:
-Clove
-Ginger
-Occasional raw garlic, oil of oregano, vitamin CWhat i could try or improve?
-My sleep schedule is horrible rn, i could try to fix that.
-Rising my bed to incline position
-Last effort is carnivore diet, first with lower carbs and then 0 carb...Please, give me advice and opinions.
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How much do you weigh?
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@Hearthfire About 95 kg. Im not that fat but i have slightly higher bf% that is optimal, bloating makes it look like its more than it is. I have decent amount of muscle too.
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Hi. I might suggest taking a Benadryl before bed. I buy the “dye free” hci 25 mg. Antihistamine. These really help me with excess sneezing sinus mucus. And really help me relax before bed. A side effect that I personally don’t really like is that it shuts my mouth saliva way down. Meaning my mouth always gets really dry, which is not a good thing for your teeth. But you obviously have the opposite problem hence my suggestion.
Try it and let me know!And if that doesn’t work find a traditional Chinese medicine practitioner in your area and have them proscribe you some herbs. They are amazing for symptoms like yours, mucus and fluids in the body being to wet or too dry or too cold or too hot. They’ve been honing in on those kinds of symptoms for 2~3,000 years.
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@BeefEnjoyer also my opinion on going carnivore to solve that issue is that it would probably help but then the minute you get sick of such a boring restrictive diet that problem will be even worse. It’s not solving it it’s just avoiding it. Not that I know what “it” is.
My guess is it’s some kind of histamine over production. -
Overweight people are more prone to infections. Maybe not the cause, but I would start trying to get your weight down anyway. It will vastly improve your overall health even if it doesn't fix the hypersalivation.
If you suspect it's a infection/gut issue, gotta start trying stuff. For the mouth, try salt rinses, baking soda rinses, to clear up bad bacteria, great for teeth health overall. Also put a teaspoon of baking soda in a glass of water and drink it daily. Will help with the bloating/gas, helps with acid reflux. Tons of health benefits to it.
Are you taking medications? Google search says over salivation is usually caused by medications.
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@BeefEnjoyer are you a mouth breather? do you have small jaws a longface?
if yes you have sleep apnea waking up multiple times at night and feeling unrefreshed?
If that is the case get your tongue tie cut, do palate expansion then double jaw surgery. it fixes any issues with your looks and improves your life in various way hormonally when you can finally breath the natrual amount of air a human should. search the youtube channel jaw hacks. Although the only reason I say this is because when I have mouthbreathed I notice saliva gathers quite quickly and I either drool or have to swallow alot. -
did you get the poke back in 2021
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@dapose Tried cypro, didnt really do much, and the next day fatique that it causes is just brutal.
@Hearthfire I dont think weight loss would help. Baking soda is something i could try.
@BigChad10 Im not getting any surgery...
@Samyo No and never will.
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Being overweight is what is debilitating to health. It makes you more prone to infections and pretty much all other ailments. Heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, cancer.
If your body is trying to fight something off and heal, and it's causing this debilitating salivation, then it's obviously not able to for some reason.
If you're not willing to make major changes to try to fix it, it must not be that debilitating.
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You sound hyper cholinergic. Have you tried methylene blue and/or adamantane? Even if it is a utilization issue, SIBO can cause elevated serum B12 but meanwhile actually causing a b12 deficiency, perhaps not allowing full utilization of choline. Try something like those things, then approach the gut with the basic stuff: carrot salad, vinegar, coconut oil, charcoal, flowers of sulphur.
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@Hearthfire Im not overweight... 95 kg for muscular 184 cm man is not overweight. I have little bit of extra bodyfat but im certainly not overweight the way you might think i am.
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Cyproheptadine and diphenhydramine are not the same chemical. I am a fan and user of both. They do different things. I would try a Benadryl if I were getting depressed from mouth saliva. Its cheap and an available anywhere.
Take care.
