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    WICKED SORE THROAT + I got the FLU ----- HELP ------

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    • KilgoreK Offline
      Kilgore
      last edited by Kilgore

      Last Friday I started to get a sore throat which was not that bad, then by the night I got a fever which turned into fever dream and I couldn't sleep at all. Since then my sore throat has only gotten worse and worse I can't sleep, can't eat, can't focus on programming the pain is just so intolerable. Yesterday I was at the Doctor and she said that I got the flu.
      I have tried everything, baths, aspirin, red light, my stomach contents are 85% throat candy, gargling with salt water, nothing reduced the pain until I started taking Nurofen (200mg ibuprofen & 500mp paracetamol).
      If you can recommend anything please do. Im dying out here!

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      • engineerE Offline
        engineer
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        Sorry to hear you are feeling so horrible from the flu

        It looks like maybe testosteronemaxxing could be effective, along with these:

        "...their severity can be controlled not only by administration of androgens but by various measures aimed at controlling PUFA availability and its metabolism, considering PUFA is the main driver of inflammation. Namely, dietary PUFA restriction, lipolysis inhibition (aspirin, niacinamide), lipid peroxidation inhibition (vitamin E), COX/LOX inhibition, etc. should all help both increase resistance to viral infections and accelerate recovery from them."

        https://haidut.me/?p=1452

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          user1 @Kilgore
          last edited by

          @Kilgore i suggest stay as warm as possible as long as it is confortable, day and night

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          • yerragY Offline
            yerrag @Kilgore
            last edited by

            @Kilgore

            Plentybof rest helps a lot but sleep is difficult if your breathing is restricted. Helps to sleep in a reclining position.

            Since a fever helps kill microbes, wrap yourself in a blanket as you sleep and let it sweat as the heat induces more antimicrobial action.

            Drinking plenty of water may be harder, as water tastes bland. I used to drink 7Up as a child, but colas then had real sugar, which is better than the sugar substitutes in soda these days.

            Gargling with salt is very helpful.

            Taking Benadryl helps me sleep.

            Since it is also harder to eat when sick, I dont force myself to eat when I don't feel like it. Digesting food uses energy and it diverts the energy needes for healing. Just eat light. I would eat rice porridge with dry meat flakes, which is easily found in asian grocery stores.

            Im not keen on taking paracetamol or NSAIDs. Lowering body temperature is counterproductive.

            Sleep is the best way as it let's the body recover. Without sleep, medication is useless as medicine is not the primary way to heal from flu. It ia an aid to potentiate the real solution.

            Hope this helps.

            Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
            engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
            wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
            the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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            • KilgoreK Offline
              Kilgore @engineer
              last edited by

              @engineer Interesting thx.

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              • KilgoreK Offline
                Kilgore @user1
                last edited by

                @user1 @yerrag Thanks for the answers.
                Should I take thyroid? I forgot to mention that when I had the fever I did take a quarter of cynoplus. I don't know if that is what caused the fever or not.

                @yerrag said in WICKED SORE THROAT + I got the FLU ----- HELP ------:

                Im not keen on taking paracetamol or NSAIDs. Lowering body temperature is counterproductive.

                See. I did not know that they do that. Im starting to feel less of their effects as I am getting to sleep time.

                I will try to sleep more. I have to.

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                • yerragY Offline
                  yerrag @Kilgore
                  last edited by

                  @Kilgore

                  If you're normothyroid to begin with, your fever may be a result of your body having the ability to raise temperature when needed. You don't need to thyroid at all.

                  Since our immune system creates ROS to destroy pathogens, these ROS may spill over to cause oxidative stress, our body has to rely on ita primary antioxidants to counter oxidative stress.

                  These processes consume energy that would divert rhe body from optimal mitochondrial oxidation. Because less CO2 is produced, the body can become acidic and this disrupts the virtuous cycle needed by the body to be keep running in a self-correcting and rebalancing manner. Less CO2 in blood may also restrict tissue oxygenation, and lead to less energy produced while increasing lactic acid production while decreasing CO2 production.

                  Taking baking soda, drinking carbonated water, or breathing carbogen will provide an external source of CO2 and bicarbonate to compensate for the temporary shortfall in endogenous CO2 production. Drinking citrus fruit juices also provides bicarbonate as rhe citrate readily xonverts to bicarbonate in the body.

                  Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                  engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                  wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                  the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                  • cs3000C Offline
                    cs3000 @yerrag
                    last edited by cs3000

                    @kilgore benzocaine spray comes in handy to take the edge off, maybe enough to sleep at least
                    cistus tea or geranium pelargonium sidoides root) extract if tolerated might help it resolve it a day or 2 sooner

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                    • alfredoolivasA Offline
                      alfredoolivas
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                      This is such NPC advice, but drink a lot of water.

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                      • sunsunsunS Offline
                        sunsunsun @Kilgore
                        last edited by sunsunsun

                        for future reference, 5mg methylene blue, 500mg vitamin c, and like 1-2 mg cyproheptadine is my go-to for if I feel like something might be coming on. and like 10,000 iu vitamin d whereas my normal dose when I take it (not in summer time) is 3000iu

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                        • daposeD Offline
                          dapose
                          last edited by

                          Oregano oil. 4 drops on tongue! It’s like warm hellfire to evil throat bastards.
                          Probably should be drinking nac + glycine combo. 1/4 tsp each couple few times a day.
                          Stay warm.
                          Aspirin. Then more aspirin.
                          Bone broth soup.

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                          • KilgoreK Offline
                            Kilgore
                            last edited by

                            After sleeping and staying in bed all throughout yesterday I feel much better. Now I am just coughing, still a little sore throat but I think that's battle damage. I think sleeping it off was the most important thing.

                            @yerrag said in WICKED SORE THROAT + I got the FLU ----- HELP ------:

                            Taking baking soda, drinking carbonated water, or breathing carbogen will provide an external source of CO2 and bicarbonate to compensate for the temporary shortfall in endogenous CO2 production. Drinking citrus fruit juices also provides bicarbonate as rhe citrate readily xonverts to bicarbonate in the body.

                            Ill do this. Thanks for the detailed advice as always.

                            @cs3000 said in WICKED SORE THROAT + I got the FLU ----- HELP ------:

                            @kilgore benzocaine spray comes in handy to take the edge off, maybe enough to sleep at least
                            cistus tea or geranium pelargonium sidoides root) extract if tolerated might help it resolve it a day or 2 sooner

                            Spray made me feel terrible I couldn't stand it!

                            @alfredoolivas said in WICKED SORE THROAT + I got the FLU ----- HELP ------:

                            This is such NPC advice, but drink a lot of water.

                            True. Need water to sweat out toxins!

                            @sunsunsun said in WICKED SORE THROAT + I got the FLU ----- HELP ------:

                            for future reference, 5mg methylene blue, 500mg vitamin c, and like 1-2 mg cyproheptadine is my go-to for if I feel like something might be coming on. and like 10,000 iu vitamin d whereas my normal dose when I take it (not in summer time) is 3000iu

                            I dont have mb or cypro but I will stock up on those for sure. Im popping a lot of vitamin c now!

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                            • Hando-JinH Offline
                              Hando-Jin
                              last edited by Hando-Jin

                              bicarb

                              some think the 'flu' is actually an acidosis

                              I have been able to induce all the symptoms of a cold, in varying
                              degree from a simple coryza to that of la grippe and the "flu," by the
                              induction of an artificial acidosis through the administration of ammo
                              nium and calcium chlorides. The degree of severity of the symptoms
                              was in direct ratio to the degree of acidosis induced. In the severer
                              degree of acidosis, all the classical symptoms of the "flu" were present,
                              even including a low degree of fever. The symptoms rapidly subsided
                              upon the administration of sodium bicarbonate in large doses by mouth
                              and by rectum.

                              https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/10.2105/AJPH.18.1.15

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