Posts made by Crypt Keeper

BTW, Santosh was one of the pioneers of these various PPL test powders in transdermal form and one of the last posts he made before he went radio silent was to stay away from DHT stuff as it nukes estrogen too much. Just putting it out there.

@Uncover I've seen many of those reviews you're talking about. It's hard to know what's real and what is just their competitors making stuff up to make them look bad in a cut-throat industry. Truth is, PPL could easily ship bunk for an allotted percentage of their sales knowing that their customers have absolutely no recourse other than to write nasty reviews that they will call fake. Still, at least some of their product has to be legit or they wouldn't have any repeat customers from those testing with Janoshik, etc.

FWIW I have their T and DHT micronized powders and experienced absolutely nothing noticeable despite various methods of administration and dosages. I actually don't think this is very surprising though because I hardly notice any products I take (nootropics, etc.) and even real things like SARMs and pro-hormones are only subtle to me after several days of usage. But some here will take some of the T powder orally or transdermally and say they "feel" immediate effects. In my situation I don't think much of it made it into my system intact.

Did you get any bloodwork while taking DHT? I'm curious about the effectiveness of each of the routes of administration but never got around to doing any tests myself.

@JamesL said in DHT source?:

@Crypt-Keeper but isn't Stanolone something different?

As far as I know, that's just another name for DHT. It's what people were buying when talking about getting DHT from PPL.

@JamesL https://www.purplepandalabs.io/goods?code=200908100105550

@Sugarnotsnow Yep, that's the one I got.

@Sugarnotsnow I got mine from Purple Panda Labs. I can't vouch for its purity because I didn't have it tested and I felt literally nothing from it when I took it orally and transdermally. Same with their DHT powder.

@Sugarnotsnow said in Share your T levels:

@Crypt-Keeper What do you typically eat now?

I'm still eating a 100% junk food diet.

I was typically testing between 800 and 1200 ng/dL but that was on a complete junk food garbage diet. I haven't had it tested in years so I'm not sure where I'm at now.

The esters are for making injections. If you're looking to do oral or transdermal, you'll want to get raw micronized testosterone.

Just looking at that chart that lists the effects of GABA I can't imagine why anybody would want that as a default state. Literally the Prince Valium phenotype.

Give me the opposite of that.

@wester130 Probably because T and especially E2 were reduced by DHT:

DHT treatment increased serum DHT with complete suppression of serum T, luteinizing hormone, follicle stimulating hormone, and estradiol throughout the 24-month study resulting in reduced spinal bone density.

Sounds like 70mg transdermal DHT daily is bad for your health.

Why would anybody get their theology from charlie? Like who is he?

@Bye4ever said in DHT with test?:

I have tried basically every estrogen blocker on earth...Masteron, Primo, Aromasin, Arimidex, Nolvadex...and many many more. In the end, there is no libido if E2 is just slightly below ref.

Other than the libido situation, how did you feel on those estrogen blockers?

I got excited until I saw that it was estriol rather than estradiol.

@Bye4ever Oh yeah... cracky, achy joints. Poor strength and flexibility. Impossible to get a pump. Low mood. Weight lifting is practically futile. Libido is fine though. Maybe a bit too high.

@risingfire Sorry, I should clarify. I'm not recommending somebody should take DHT only. I recommend taking Test only.

I personally don't even think people should be chasing DHT unless they actually have symptoms and / or bloodwork showing low DHT and / or unopposed estrogen. But that's just my personal view based on my own hormonal profile.

@Bye4ever I had it checked twice. First time it was flagged high: 25.9 ng/mL [RI: 4-15.2] and the second time it was high-normal: 10.8 ng/mL. On those same tests estradiol was 19 and 18 pg/mL respectively and testosterone 787 and 450 ng/dL. The second test I had horrible, broken sleep the night before yet prolactin was surprisingly lower.

@PrinceTrebata I've checked pregnenolone on blood tests and it seemed normal, but not sure if that means anything. I've tried taking 5-10mg sublingually but haven't noticed much. Maybe I need to take a lot more.

I'm 5'9", which is average for my cohort (young people seem much taller these days), but I probably could have been an inch or two taller if I had actually eaten well when growing up. I ate like a bird. Never really had much of an appetite. I have a small frame and small bones too and they don't seem to be too dense, either. My bodyfat scale says I have low bone mass.

@PrinceTrebata Well, estrogen is a problem for me. It's actually the only problem I want to solve but can't figure out how. I've always had all those symptoms of low e2 and they suck, and confirmed it with bloodwork. E2 is always very low, but T is very high. It's weird. I've been trying DHEA and boron but not sure it's doing anything. I'm trying to avoid DHT a bit because it can be anti-estrogenic.