Posts made by Tahodama

Update:

I bought Bombay Sapphire gin. Probably a bit pricey; at the current consumption rate (240g/week) it lasts approximately 2 months, or $1/day.

Format:
Mixed with Idealabs quinine (any quinine could work, I just went with Idealabs for reliability's sake), blended frozen berries, and sugar/honey.

Effects:

1. Sleepiness, especially pronounced on days of sleep loss and labor exhaustion
2. Brief gut motility the following day
3. Noticeable anti-serotonergic influence, reduced bitter mood
4. Not much else

Economic alternatives:

1. Wine (a general recommendation I was given if I wanted to mitigate starch consumption and guarantee sugar intake)
2. Whiskey if in America for solid ABV/$ ratio.

There is one extra effect, that being pain numbing. I found recently that on days of greater toil (blistered feet, sore muscles, tired lungs, etc) that it made me feel less "destroyed" at the end of the day. Body felt more relaxed, wouldn't enter that "shutdown" state after intense duress.

I don't think it's made my skin any paler. Maybe I didn't have that much lipofuscin to begin with...

As a fellow poor peater (pea-oorter? poor-eater? peatoor? peatsantry? peatverty?) My friend (also poor, but health conscious in a gym bro way) was criticizing me for buying various Peat items and kept insisting I eat beans and lentils. Much back-and-forth has transpired, but I did think it was worth mentioning rice and oats. From what I remember, those two starches are... not the worst... as long as one keeps their gut biome in check (I also got hearsay that Peat said oats were fairly benign if consumed with milk). Could do some discourse on that. He also claimed cottage cheese was the cheapest of all dairies (beside milk), though that likely varies heavily by location. Might wanna evaluate which sources of dairy are cheapest (if you think you need the saturated fat/its nutrients...)
On that note, remember you can recycle used eggshells for calcium. Did this myself with a mortar and pestle. I haven't seen any negative effects from it yet... and it does seem to work as intended. Brad Cohn's got a simple guide - boil for 5 minutes, bake for 20 minutes, powderize. Get it as fine as you can else it increases digestion risks.

Been hearing constant musings about the benefits of alcohol around the Peat health sphere. Lipofuscin decrease, hormonal effects, etc. There's also the superstitious and mystical reasons people constantly invoke, so I was wondering what drinks might serve this purpose best.
I've lived a faithful life of a teetotaler up until now (or, more accurately, my childhood was so bereft of socialization that there came no occasions to drink in the first place (also it was a full of Christian puritans)), so peering into the alcohol world feels like joining a community for a 15 year old multiplayer game and seeing the players mention countless subjects and terms whose meanings seem unintelligible.
I was wondering if there were any straight answers on the matter and if one should even bother with it in the first place... I'm doing this only for health reasons after all, I still have no reason to drink in terms of socialization.

If you're going to shoplift I think you should at least do it with a sense of confidence and/or disregard for society and individuals, trying to justify all your actions from a moral lens just makes you seem insecure (not accusing anyone in particular of that). You're already committing a legal crime, just own up to it. "N-no, I am ENTITLED to this thing, you see! Society owes me this!" not a dignified way of standing up for yourself.

On a different note I used to think petty thievery was the "good" type of theft, because who cares about a bag of doritos? But after dwelling on it a bit I realized it was the more daring and intelligence-gated acts of theft that merit some admiration, and display a certain exertion of will over the world. Petty thievery just makes you seem, well, petty. Like a homeless loser who doesn't have anything better to do than to pilfer sloppily.

I had no issues taking aspirin alone for a long time. Only symptom after absurd usage (like 3g/day) was my skin got cut easily. Of course this isn't taking into account the unforeseen consequences, but the point stands that it depends on your constitution. If you're a big guy (for you) like me then you'll be fine, but less blockheaded individuals are prolly more sensitive to downsides.

The prior recommendations to eat ground veggies (carrots, onions, potatoes, etc) is good. Produce is generally pretty cheap, or at least you need to do homework on what the cheapest peaty (or peat compatible) items in your area are and prioritize them. My main concern is getting a good source of carbs - is fruit consumption enough? If not, then try looking at frozen berries, or refined sugar if you're willing (though that may be risky long term).

I want to jeer at CO3 for recommending mentioning shoplifting but I am a resourceful man myself and would regularly steal utilize free food from from the work break room. I'm pretty sure I'm the reason they stopped supplying it with oatmeal packets (saved my coworkers from a life of starchceldom btw). Now I just make use of the free oranges and pears. I would suggest similar resourcefulness in your case. Indulge in the packets of sugar at restaurants. Mooch off of your friends. Combine multiple small snacks into a meal. etc

I would recommend vitamin E to cope with any PUFA you inevitably consume with a budget diet but the generic off-brand alpha-tocopheryl prolly isn't gonna do much. Stick to the aspirin and the coconut oil as tactical deployment.

Consider also your physical needs. If 1) your life circumstances are not physically demanding, and 2) you don't really care about being a beefy haidutian lifter then you can maybe skimp out on fat and protein. Or at least I eat a lot more fat than I should and get away with it because of constant physical laboring. But there are cheeky ways of getting these macros, if you calculate the costs of the cheapest sources - eggs, creams, gelatin, etc. Maybe there's a clever way of integrating some new cheap food item to meet these demands.

You can also simply fortify existing meals with good food items. This is what I do with cheap meals, like adding sour cream and coconut oil to box mac and cheese for extra fat content. If all your food is homemade (which it should be, poor people who only eat premade food deserve it) it should be possible to customize it a bit in your favor.

Lastly, find some way to do all of this in a way that is stimulating rather than taxing. When I cut costs and do budgeting work I like to pretend I'm some guru doing dramatic calculations, like I'm playing a survival game and I'm solving exactly how to manage my limited resources. It helps to keep things fun and exciting rather than boring and stressful, which will indeed cause problems as this state persists.

@CO3 I work a job where I have to socialize with people every 5 minutes and have found each and every one of them to be shallow and devoid of any worthwhile insight. I'm afraid my biases have been hardened, not softened, the more I experience.

@ThinPicking It wasn't too big a deal, or at least I've been good at dealing with stress from a young age and, strangely, aspects from the divorce are less painful aspects of my childhood to remember than others. I'm in good standing with both my parents. But the separation was hard on my dad financially and socially for a good 10 years, if that tells you the toll it took on him. He recovered from it though.

Regarding my own high score of not talking to women, that's mostly a circumstantial thing. Ever since my midteens I lost all contact with my female friends and just never made any to replace them. Since then I've never had any indepth conversation with them, although I don't mind interacting with them. Just never felt the desire to do so since I have more pressing matters to deal with in life, and I don't view having female friends as an end in of itself.

@DonkeyDude You can certainly say so; I'm speaking in the terms of moral theology, and admitting one's parents weren't ideal is not the same as saying they committed an unjust act, although that's being very technical.

Nobody in this day and age is thriving everybody is fucked in some way or another plus everybodys diet is shit

This is both a saddening and encouraging statement. Sad, in the sense that life quality is so poor, or to put it with more stinging words: So far below what it could be! But encouraging in the sense that this almost endows one with a sense of duty to procreate in order that humans collectively can rise to higher standards of life.
I think it's almost a noble instinct to be hesitant to procreate, for it at least displays an awareness of the common good (a trait of hajnal civilization) and concern for societal wellbeing. But in a case when we're all at a disadvantage it might be time to put those concerns aside, at least when most of us have an equal chance to provide society with better progeny, and thus equal duty.

@CO3 Also, peepees and vagoo is a more important topic than actual political thought. HAHA! Go read more useless theory and see what good it does you.

@CO3 I haven't interacted with a girl in 8 years so it's hard for me to think about them, at least outside of principle, abstract terms.

In any case I watched my own dad get screwed over by divorce laws. I don't think he was blameless, but it was bizarre seeing courts just brutalize him.

a deep seated problem with sexuality, using terms like vulgar and hypersexual and gluttonous

Also I just wanted to note that the reason I invoke gluttony in regard to hypersexuality is because sexual appetite and literal appetite are very closely linked. This is why fasting calms the libido, why eating red meat stimulates it, why women eating sloppily can be erotic to some, why those with overeating disorders also have masturbation addictions, and why excessive displays of both are disgusting to more sensible, "artful" types (Not saying I am one, I don't consider myself very artful). Oral sex was once likened to chicken soup. The analogies go hand-in-hand.

@Ray-Peat-Fanboy Envy is a type of resentment. A feeling of being unjustly treated: "I deserve to have what they have!"
But you are right, insofar as the specific group of self-identified incels we are talking about, self-internalized social failures, often end up directing contempt inwardly toward themselves. This is what leads to the "I'm a loser, I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo" mantra that makes them listen to sad rock bands like Radiohead or whatever. If you actually go into these circles you'll see a lot of Indians and browns developing a sort of impotent self-conception with self-fulfilling prophecies about them being inadequate individuals.

Women intuitively sense a different type of incel however, at least in addition to the aforementioned one, one that I've been trying to elaborate on, which is an antisocial type who directs their contempt outwardly, and who for the most part think they are actually quite self-confident people. These people are incel for their "social maladjustment," although these incels would instead argue they are merely abstaining from socializing either for their own benefit or from a lack of interest and even disdain for social activities.

@Luke

To be an "incel" (how do modern people come up with all those fancy terms nowadays?), you would have to have severe erectile dysfunction, live in a very conservative country or be pretty poor (which, to be fair, is not seldom the case). Because if you want sex, you could always visit a hooker. If you don't want that because of moral reasons, which is perfectly understandable and reasonable, you're not an "incel". You've made a conscious and deliberate decision.

Andrew Anglin, one of the more thoughtful people from the remnants of /pol/ alt right, defended the modern usage of incel by likening it to gambling: Would you say someone who refuses to partake in a rigged system is "voluntarily not a gambler"? No, that's just someone making a rational decision based on his self-interest. There was not much voluntary choosing, because it implies a significant amount of agency in a decision that was obvious to make. Note here that he thinks choosing to abstain from the dating market is a positive decision, for he elaborates on how many men get screwed over by divorce, harassment accusations, pregnancies, etc, to the point that "voluntarily celibate" is an entirely redundant phrase.

@Ecstatic_Hamster Prepended note: "Pathetic knub" is not the same as the other items you listed; it deals less with sexuality and more with man's dignity or honor, which is easily reduced today by various forces to the point he becomes a socially impotent and vapid creature. Most people would agree this is a bad thing unless they subscribe to shallow obama-era nihilism and say honor "isn't real" and is merely a projection of "fragile male ego" or something unthoughtful like that.

Your point is understandable. I'm aware of the idea that puritanical types have "repressed sexualities" (repressed by what?) which makes their ideas seem pathological, and for its own sake I'll cede that there is an excess of sexual disgust insofar as it leads one to disdain those things that God created, or even instituted for man's wellbeing, which is erroneous for implying God made a mistake in His creating us.

But I don't think God intended for us to flaunt our sexuality immodestly, at least not post-fall, either. Or I can put it in another, simpler way, which is that having zero disgust for sexuality seems to lead to: sodomitical acts being celebrated, balding millenials using phrases like "shit and cum" frivolously, female comedians talking about their vagina every 5 seconds, people having the most grotesque and fowl taste in the erotic arts (this includes specifically things like obese fetishes and genital obsessions), orgies and other desecrations of the romantic aspects of sex, and lastly in an abstract sense creates this negroidic (because they're especially guilty of this) lack of respect for sex, which ironically reduces all of the mystique and excitement to be had in the act, leaving nothing but a self-gratifying pastime of mere fluid exchange. If you want to find where all the "sex positivity" is, I suggest looking at groups of 30 year olds living together in polyamorous relationships, and you can tell me if the people there are virile and full of life.
None of these components I would deem part of a higher civilization, and frankly I'd go to great lengths to avoid all of them. And I think instead one should hone their sense of disgust, because without it you lose all taste and sensibility, and with which will naturally result in the exclusion of many sexual phenomena that is considered "normal" today. It might be "repression," or it might be dissatisfaction. In any case, one needs to provide proof for why it's a "problem." How would these inclinations hurt society?

@Mulloch94 I see. So INCELS are the reason you can't go to low-income neighborhoods at night. INCELS are the reason gun crime is so high. INCELS are the reason rape is so common. Maybe if more people got MOFUGGIN PUSSAY then all of society's problems would go poof. It's the INCEL'S FAULT he can't find joy in living around obese knuckle-dragging hall monitors thirsting to pounce on the slightest infraction. It's the INCEL'S FAULT he doesn't want to emasculate himself in order to find a mate.

Actually their reactions are quite rational. You're the one with the burden of proof by saying that young men should be expected to be put through all of this with a smile.

@Mulloch94 That's a good way to spike deaths from unintended discharges and otherwise incompetent gun handling.

@CO3 I frankly doubt your standard of "having shit together" has much depth. You would be fine with someone being a loser so long as they were a "decent fucking person", and conversely spiteful of a successful person if their mannerisms disturbed you.

@Peatly I am curious how much internet culture will bleed into real life as age demographics shift and old stock die off. Right now the most representation you get is fast food Twitter accounts posting viral ironic ifunny memes, or "Pokémon go to the polls"-tier politicians referencing something hip, at the suggestion of some media manager. Will this ever change? Will there be a point where a politician can talk casually about what video games they played, or what community they frequented, or will it always appear to be neutered and performive? Many factors at play when answering that question (the social hazards of most internet culture being just one example). I don't think incel or other "loner/loser" culture will be referenced by huge voices, unless it were in derision by some embittered communist feminist.

@Ecstatic_Hamster You can be a vulgar hypersexual man if you want. I won't pretend it doesn't have its appeals. Although while to some it appears like inordinate gluttonous convulsion, to those of different temperamental taste they can make something cool of it.

But see to it that you do not reduce yourself to a pathetic knub of a man in the process. You almost have to consciously cultivate a womanizer identity similar to BAP or Andrew Tate in order to make it work. So many men will chase sex and, upon some meager morsel of female attention, convince themselves they are some EPIC virile bronze age sexor man, when in reality they are complete docile slaves to pussy and all the absurd modern hurdles and humilation it takes to get it.

@Peatly This is true. While its frequency depends on the demographic you interact with, such as college-age women vs. middle-age rural Americans, I myself have only heard its use a couple times in my life.

There's one problem, however: The internet is more important than real life.