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    • AndrosclerozatA
      Androsclerozat @Corngold
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      @Corngold said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

      When is one "fully" awakened?

      I don't think it's possible to be 100% and living in the system at the same time. It may be better to isolate somewhere as I said off-grid fully self-sustained with the idea in mind that the whole system is fully corrupted even though you got no arguments, lying to yourself would be more beneficial because you are not part of it anymore.
      But being fully self-sustained means no technology that could help you become more productive and more physical stress which will lower your quality life.

      I didn't know about Broadacre City, sounds interesting. Why do you think it's not applicable in the real world? Is it because of the government or the idea itself is not brilliant enough?

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        Androsclerozat @Corngold
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        @Corngold said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

        But when the smaller cities grow, they are incentivized to become like bigger cities, see bigger investments, foreign influence, become dead, grey, soulless, low-trust, etc.

        During communism in Romania, the dictator built industry and warehouses all over the country, even my small town of few thousands had a few. People were living in rural areas working their normal jobs close to home. Now it's the opposite, the West came, all industry destroyed and created new ones only in big cities.

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          Androsclerozat @Corngold
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          @Corngold said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

          Last thing is this goes back to energy.

          Yes, such a shame everything in centralized. Romania has energy, from hydro mainly, enough for double country of Romania, and they still makes us pay a bill. And of course, the energy is owned by e-on, a German company.

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          • AndrosclerozatA
            Androsclerozat @Corngold
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            @Corngold said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

            The problem is we're debunking our "big lie" now, and we need a new "big lie" to correct the old one. But there are always "big lies" being debunked and new ones created.

            That's right.

            @Corngold said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

            I'm led to believe many things worsened under Obamna's reign, which Trump was set to "fix" as an opposition.

            Did worsen really? I don't live in the US, but wasn't the economy worse after Trump than after Obama? On paper could be better for Trump, but in reality the economy becomes worse for the average guy since all money goes to the riches. So it doesn't really matter if Trump creates jobs if the system is rigged.

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              Corngold @Androsclerozat
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              @Androsclerozat said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

              I didn't know about Broadacre City, sounds interesting. Why do you think it's not applicable in the real world? Is it because of the government or the idea itself is not brilliant enough?

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              An article on the architect's plan:
              https://nextcity.org/urbanist-news/frank-lloyd-wrights-utopian-dystopia

              an excerpt:

              "Even in the 1930s, urban planners were disgusted by Broadacre. Its philosophy was deeply individualistic; its layout was conspicuously wasteful. Liberals of the time who emulated the socialist spirit of Europe classified Wright as an anti-government eccentric, which indeed he was. In 1938, Marxist art historian Meyer Schapiro condemned Broadcre City as “perfectly consistent with physical and spiritual decay.”

              This pretty much says it all. Urban planners want maximum utility - whether socialist or fascist. Apparently socialists considered it anti-government because it would be closer to self-sufficient and decentralized / autonomous cities ("republics" if you will).

              I guess Schapiro thinks open space, autonomy, and "working with nature" are signs of spiritual and physical decay.

              In reality market forces would never let this happen. I think it's quite literally an example of why even small things like walkability, trees, night-sky visibility, grasses/pastures non-"productive" or non-extractive rural land are incredibly rare now.

              Even in a country like the US, the big shareholders and corporations would take major losses if people self-organized into unique communities. They would not be in control. That's it. I think whatever we're calling "government" are really just oligarchs or barons of industry; they have to get theirs. And I suppose that's why they're governing and marketing down to the cellular level with drugs and diseases.

              At the same time, I'm pretty cynical and think our society is a mirror of human nature. The big lies of our time are also the product of cynicism about human nature, not lacking shortsightedness about the failures of human nature. Sort of like the pharmaceutical industry; any new discovery can spur research into a drug to cure the thing, but it just exacerbates the disconnection between doctor and patient.

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                Corngold @Androsclerozat
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                @Androsclerozat said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                During communism in Romania, the dictator built industry and warehouses all over the country, even my small town of few thousands had a few. People were living in rural areas working their normal jobs close to home. Now it's the opposite, the West came, all industry destroyed and created new ones only in big cities.

                That is a sad story though it's believable. It's a vicious cycle. Entire cities and states in the US are basically destitute because of what happened forty years ago outsourcing automobile and other manufacturing, coal, gas, etc. The USA is technically an incorporated entity; DC, London, and Vatican are autonomous city-states as well and all connected, not to mention Switzerland $$$.

                From what I've read Obama took office and race crimes increased a lot, black on black, black and white, etc. He basically created a new "race" agenda in a post-racial culture. There is supposedly a lot of other damage Obama did (really screwed Veterans healthcare/hospital operations; laundered billions to sham foreign "green energy" companies) but I'm not sure it's really unique compared to any other president including Trump of course.

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                  Androsclerozat @Corngold
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                  @Corngold said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                  I guess Schapiro thinks open space, autonomy, and "working with nature" are signs of spiritual and physical decay.

                  Indeed. I checked him out and he is a jew and probably a mason too. It's pretty hard to find one that's pro-autonomy.

                  @Corngold said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                  The big lies of our time are also the product of cynicism about human nature, not lacking shortsightedness about the failures of human nature.

                  I am always thinking if I would be in power, how corrupted I would be? I think the more sins you do in your life, the easier is to repeat them. If you got a conflict with your best friend and you lie, next time it would be easier (less remorse) to lie and **the purity of the friendship and your soul **decreases but also for the next one friendships.

                  If you could get back that purity it would be fantastic, but I hardly know an effective way. Some say by praying. For me works doing good to homeless people, but I had moments when they didn't thank me for giving them a meal, they looked with superiority actually and that demotivated me. Maybe loving animals?
                  I got a bit off topic haha

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                    Androsclerozat @Corngold
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                    @Corngold said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                    The USA is technically an incorporated entity; DC, London, and Vatican are autonomous city-states as well and all connected, not to mention Switzerland $$$.

                    We can't do much unfortunately.

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                      Androsclerozat @Corngold
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                      @Corngold said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                      From what I've read Obama took office and race crimes increased a lot, black on black, black and white, etc.

                      Oh, yeah, just also for the fact that Obama himself is black can create conflict.
                      You got black, white, Kamala is indian if I remember, now Chinese and you got them all.

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                        16charactersitis @yerrag
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                        @yerrag In other words, Fina steride met its match in the Donald

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                          Is the ferrous sulfate that is in enriched flour only bad because it is highly absorbable? so that means it would be good for someone with legitimately low iron?

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                            Corngold @Androsclerozat
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                            @Androsclerozat

                            All good points. What little we can do is in our power.

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                              @Corngold non productive rural land is huge in Canada. miles and miles of nothing but almost barren hills and fields zoned as "agricultural land reserve" which is at best used for occasional cattle grazing. developers are not allowed to build anything on it except two storey residential house per acerage

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                                Corngold @A Former User
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                                @sneedful

                                Exactly. A la the "carbon credit" scam. Also we probably have too much low quality forest today. With chemtrails too, this is a planned toxic environment.

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                                  Something that everyone is missing on this thread, I think, unless I missed it… ha! Is that trump is always moving. There is something to being on the road constantly traveling which I have done many times. I don’t mean heading out on one little vacation. I mean next town, next, next go, keep going next. Next meeting, stimulating, always variation.

                                  This is extremely Peatastic. Ray always talked about this, mentally, but trump is truly living it. He doesn’t fallow a script. Peaty. He doesn’t always give the same answers. Peaty. He has leisure in his life. Peaty. He is just screwing around and stumbled into the white house because he’s just playing around with his life. And has apparently his entire life. He lives like a kid. He isn’t trying to make his metabolism like a kids, he is living like a kid. But with an adult mind. I would assume the day trump dies he will have had 5 meetings went to a great dinner party and maybe a boxing match and hit 18 holes of golf. And fired some losers! Ha! Live and let live.

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                                    yerrag @dapose
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                                    @dapose Agreed. There is meaning and purpose. He is driven and that allows his cells and tissues to rally and rearrange to give substance to that will.

                                    Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                    engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                    wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                    the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                      Hearthfire @dapose
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                                      @dapose Based and true af post.

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                                        GreekDemiGod @Hearthfire
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                                        What do you guys think Trump’s IQ is, approximately?

                                        He doesn’t strike me as particularly intellectual, and there has been criticisms of him saying that he doesn’t have deep knowledge in economics and such. But I might be wrong and that’s just a facade he puts on, to dumb down his message to the wider audience.

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                                          @GreekDemiGod said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                                          What do you guys think Trump’s IQ is, approximately?

                                          Highly variable and context dependant probably.

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                                            Corngold @dapose
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                                            @dapose said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. A fat, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                                            Ray always talked about this, mentally, but trump is truly living it.

                                            Politics aside, of course, but he also uses child-like language: simple words repeated ad nauseam: a reflection of the child-like metabolism of eating Mickey D's and flying around on a private jet?

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