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    Niacinamide as effective as minoxidil at treating “androgenic” hair loss

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    • TopicalsOnBallsT
      TopicalsOnBalls
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      I wonder if that combination of Aspirin, Thiamine, Niacinamide, and Biotin, could have great benefit when applied topically. Obviously Biotin is touted as the hair vitamin, and the other substances have been shown to have anti-inflammatory effects.

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        papilon
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        @haidut said in Niacinamide as effective as minoxidil at treating “androgenic” hair loss:

        drogi

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        • MauritioM
          Mauritio
          last edited by Mauritio

          Niacinamide is as effective as minoxidil

          Apple Polyphenols are more effective than finasteride.

          It is almost as if we dont need these drugs and nature has a solution for us.

          "It was observed an increase of 6.7 total hairs/0.25 cm2 after 6 months of procyanidin therapy. The same effects have been reported with minoxidil40–42 and finasteride (an inhibitor of type II 5α-reductase, Merck)8 therapy for androgenetic alopecia. In 2% minoxidil treatment, an increase of 250 total hairs/5.1 cm2 (calculated as 12.3 total hairs/0.25 cm2) after 12-month therapy was reported.40 In finasteride treatment (1 mg/day, oral administration), an increase of 86 total hairs/5.1 cm2 (calculated as 4.22 total hairs/0.25 cm2) after 12-month therapy was reported.8 The level of efficacy of 1% procyanidin B2 is concluded to compare favorably with minoxidil and finasteride therapy.15 "

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          • https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5775114/

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            wester130
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            the scalp needs constant glucose to grow

            Peat even mentioned topical honey for growth

            https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/did-ray-peat-just-recommended-topical-honey-for-hair.50151/

            things like topical ribose, topical inositol could be ineresting

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              Hearthfire
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              Would niacin be as effective? Tried to find out why niacinimide over niacin would be better, but couldn't find an answer. Some people seem to think niacin is better due to the blood circulation increase benefit.

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                wester130 @Hearthfire
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                @Hearthfire the "flush" is an inflammation response though

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                  wester130 @wester130
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                  @wester130 sugar for the scalp is not as crazy as it sounds

                  https://incidecoder.com/products/haple-green-tea-water

                  https://skinsort.com/products/dermica/serum-hyaluronsyre-2-inositol-4

                  https://www.lookfantastic.com/blog/discover/3-beauty-benefits-sugar-skincare/

                  https://www.skinstore.com/blog/skincare/skin-benefits-sugar/

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                    Hearthfire @wester130
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                    @wester130 Niacin reduces inflammation and helps heal wounds. The flush is histamine release. It increases blood flow, which would logically be beneficial to hair growth. Have you ever taken it? I actually think the flush feels really good, and you have an extreme sense of well being and calmness after.

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                      wester130 @Hearthfire
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                      @Hearthfire NMN is actually very cheap

                      I may experiment with it instead of normal Niacinamide

                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31955438/

                      niacinamide is not proven for hair

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                      • MauritioM
                        Mauritio @wester130
                        last edited by

                        @wester130 glucose + niacinamide + apple polyphenols

                        Dare to think.

                        My X:
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                        • MossyM
                          Mossy @Mauritio
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                          @Mauritio said in Niacinamide as effective as minoxidil at treating “androgenic” hair loss:

                          glucose + niacinamide + apple polyphenols

                          Do you still use the Swanson brand, for the apple polyphenols?

                          "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                          "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                          • MauritioM
                            Mauritio @Mossy
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                            @Mossy I stopped using them topcically, because it was such a mess to apply. But looking backon it that was because of the apple juice i diluted it in.
                            So maybe I'll give the polyphenols another run mixed with niacinamide and glucose and water.

                            Dare to think.

                            My X:
                            x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                              Mossy @Mauritio
                              last edited by Mossy

                              @Mauritio said in Niacinamide as effective as minoxidil at treating “androgenic” hair loss:

                              @Mossy I stopped using them topcically, because it was such a mess to apply. But looking backon it that was because of the apple juice i diluted it in.
                              So maybe I'll give the polyphenols another run mixed with niacinamide and glucose and water.

                              I hear you. If there's one thing I've learned over the years with these topicals, at least for me, they're impossible to use on a regular basis, apart from during sleep, due to the mess.

                              The glucose would seem to be a mess, no matter the form. On those lines, I've been thinking of using the common D-Ribose supplement, as opposed to the much more expensive variant of it used in the studies.

                              "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                              "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                                Ismail @Mauritio
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                                @Mauritio said in Niacinamide as effective as minoxidil at treating “androgenic” hair loss:

                                So maybe I'll give the polyphenols another run mixed with niacinamide and glucose and water.

                                Did you try this bud?

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                                  wester130 @Mauritio
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                                  @Mauritio what is messy about it?

                                  topicals in ethanol should disappear and absorb within 10 seconds

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                                    wester130 @Ismail
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                                    Air Compression Headband

                                    is anyone using these? china sell cheap ones for 30 dollars

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                                    • MauritioM
                                      Mauritio @Ismail
                                      last edited by

                                      @Ismail I talked about all the details extensively In this thread .

                                      https://bioenergetic.forum/post/41909

                                      Dare to think.

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                                      • MauritioM
                                        Mauritio @wester130
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                                        @wester130 I think it was the apple juice /polyphenols they stained my clothes . With the current formula that doesn't happen anymore .

                                        Dare to think.

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                                        • IsmailI
                                          Ismail @Mauritio
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                                          @Mauritio Thanks 🙏

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