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Niacinamide as effective as minoxidil at treating “androgenic” hair loss

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    haidut
    last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 6:35 PM

    The actual molecule used was nicotinamide mononucleotide (NMN). However, not only is NMN very expensive, but the FDA recently classified it as a drug so it can no longer be obtained freely by people interested in experimenting. The good news is that plain niacinamide (NAM) has almost identical physiological effects compared to NMN and prior studies have also shown hair-growth promoting effects of NAM, though mostly in auto-immune conditions such as alopecia areata. Anyways, the stud below used a simple solution with 1% concentration of NMN in saline water and applied that solution topically on the hairless skin once daily for 2 weeks. The results were accelerated hair growth comparable to minoxidil in magnitude and speed of regrowth, and there was no toxicity or side effects related to the NMN treatment (both in-vitro and in-vivo). The findings of the study match the reports we get from clients in regards to our product SolBan (contains niacinamide), which they say strongly stimulated regrowth of hair in even advanced cases of androgenic alopecia (hair loss).

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38398550/

    “…The double-blind experiment revealed that mice exposed to hair removal exhibited a cessation in hair growth. However, the administration of NMN at a specific concentration in the NMN groups stimulated hair growth during the growth phase, similar to the effects observed in the control and blank groups. The effects of NMN were comparable to those of minoxidil. In the in vitro HDPCs experiment, a concentration of 2.5 mg/mL of NMN significantly increased VEGF secretion from HDPCs by 65.19% in comparison to the control groups. Additionally, the IL-6 content notably decreased with an inhibition rate of 13.60%. NMN was observed to downregulate the expression of DKK-1 and AR genes by 75.16% and 41.78%, respectively. Furthermore, there was a significant upregulation of β-catenin expression at a rate of 125.71%. These findings demonstrate that at this concentration, NMN inhibits IL-6 secretion while promoting the upregulation of VEGF and β-catenin gene expression, and simultaneously downregulating the expression of DKK-1 and AR genes. This mechanism contributes to the anti-hair loss effect of NMN, thereby achieving the desired preventative effect. Moreover, the cytotoxicity MTT test revealed that the administered experimental concentration of NMN did not induce any cellular toxicity.”

    Via: http://haidut.me/?p=2493

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      TopicalsOnBalls
      last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 8:09 PM

      I wonder if that combination of Aspirin, Thiamine, Niacinamide, and Biotin, could have great benefit when applied topically. Obviously Biotin is touted as the hair vitamin, and the other substances have been shown to have anti-inflammatory effects.

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        papilon
        last edited by Mar 1, 2024, 6:40 PM

        @haidut said in Niacinamide as effective as minoxidil at treating “androgenic” hair loss:

        drogi

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          Mauritio
          last edited by Mauritio Mar 3, 2024, 9:32 AM Mar 3, 2024, 9:31 AM

          Niacinamide is as effective as minoxidil

          Apple Polyphenols are more effective than finasteride.

          It is almost as if we dont need these drugs and nature has a solution for us.

          "It was observed an increase of 6.7 total hairs/0.25 cm2 after 6 months of procyanidin therapy. The same effects have been reported with minoxidil40–42 and finasteride (an inhibitor of type II 5α-reductase, Merck)8 therapy for androgenetic alopecia. In 2% minoxidil treatment, an increase of 250 total hairs/5.1 cm2 (calculated as 12.3 total hairs/0.25 cm2) after 12-month therapy was reported.40 In finasteride treatment (1 mg/day, oral administration), an increase of 86 total hairs/5.1 cm2 (calculated as 4.22 total hairs/0.25 cm2) after 12-month therapy was reported.8 The level of efficacy of 1% procyanidin B2 is concluded to compare favorably with minoxidil and finasteride therapy.15 "

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          • https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5775114/

          Dare to think.

          My X:
          x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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            wester130
            last edited by Jun 21, 2024, 7:32 PM

            the scalp needs constant glucose to grow

            Peat even mentioned topical honey for growth

            https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/did-ray-peat-just-recommended-topical-honey-for-hair.50151/

            things like topical ribose, topical inositol could be ineresting

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              Hearthfire
              last edited by Jun 22, 2024, 3:33 AM

              Would niacin be as effective? Tried to find out why niacinimide over niacin would be better, but couldn't find an answer. Some people seem to think niacin is better due to the blood circulation increase benefit.

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                wester130 @Hearthfire
                last edited by Jun 22, 2024, 10:52 AM

                @Hearthfire the "flush" is an inflammation response though

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                  wester130 @wester130
                  last edited by wester130 Jun 22, 2024, 3:52 PM Jun 22, 2024, 3:26 PM

                  @wester130 sugar for the scalp is not as crazy as it sounds

                  https://incidecoder.com/products/haple-green-tea-water

                  https://skinsort.com/products/dermica/serum-hyaluronsyre-2-inositol-4

                  https://www.lookfantastic.com/blog/discover/3-beauty-benefits-sugar-skincare/

                  https://www.skinstore.com/blog/skincare/skin-benefits-sugar/

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                    Hearthfire @wester130
                    last edited by Jun 24, 2024, 1:23 AM

                    @wester130 Niacin reduces inflammation and helps heal wounds. The flush is histamine release. It increases blood flow, which would logically be beneficial to hair growth. Have you ever taken it? I actually think the flush feels really good, and you have an extreme sense of well being and calmness after.

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                      wester130 @Hearthfire
                      last edited by wester130 Jan 8, 2025, 6:43 PM Jan 8, 2025, 6:12 PM

                      @Hearthfire NMN is actually very cheap

                      I may experiment with it instead of normal Niacinamide

                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31955438/

                      niacinamide is not proven for hair

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                        Mauritio @wester130
                        last edited by Jan 10, 2025, 8:22 PM

                        @wester130 glucose + niacinamide + apple polyphenols

                        Dare to think.

                        My X:
                        x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                          Mossy @Mauritio
                          last edited by Mossy Jan 11, 2025, 2:12 AM Jan 11, 2025, 2:12 AM

                          @Mauritio said in Niacinamide as effective as minoxidil at treating “androgenic” hair loss:

                          glucose + niacinamide + apple polyphenols

                          Do you still use the Swanson brand, for the apple polyphenols?

                          "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                          "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                            Mauritio @Mossy
                            last edited by Jan 11, 2025, 10:17 AM

                            @Mossy I stopped using them topcically, because it was such a mess to apply. But looking backon it that was because of the apple juice i diluted it in.
                            So maybe I'll give the polyphenols another run mixed with niacinamide and glucose and water.

                            Dare to think.

                            My X:
                            x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                              Mossy @Mauritio
                              last edited by Mossy Jan 13, 2025, 5:50 AM Jan 13, 2025, 5:38 AM

                              @Mauritio said in Niacinamide as effective as minoxidil at treating “androgenic” hair loss:

                              @Mossy I stopped using them topcically, because it was such a mess to apply. But looking backon it that was because of the apple juice i diluted it in.
                              So maybe I'll give the polyphenols another run mixed with niacinamide and glucose and water.

                              I hear you. If there's one thing I've learned over the years with these topicals, at least for me, they're impossible to use on a regular basis, apart from during sleep, due to the mess.

                              The glucose would seem to be a mess, no matter the form. On those lines, I've been thinking of using the common D-Ribose supplement, as opposed to the much more expensive variant of it used in the studies.

                              "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                              "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                                Ismail @Mauritio
                                last edited by 9 days ago

                                @Mauritio said in Niacinamide as effective as minoxidil at treating “androgenic” hair loss:

                                So maybe I'll give the polyphenols another run mixed with niacinamide and glucose and water.

                                Did you try this bud?

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                                  wester130 @Mauritio
                                  last edited by 9 days ago

                                  @Mauritio what is messy about it?

                                  topicals in ethanol should disappear and absorb within 10 seconds

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                                    wester130 @Ismail
                                    last edited by 9 days ago

                                    Air Compression Headband

                                    is anyone using these? china sell cheap ones for 30 dollars

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                                      Mauritio @Ismail
                                      last edited by 9 days ago

                                      @Ismail I talked about all the details extensively In this thread .

                                      https://bioenergetic.forum/post/41909

                                      Dare to think.

                                      My X:
                                      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                        Mauritio @wester130
                                        last edited by 9 days ago

                                        @wester130 I think it was the apple juice /polyphenols they stained my clothes . With the current formula that doesn't happen anymore .

                                        Dare to think.

                                        My X:
                                        x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                          Ismail @Mauritio
                                          last edited by 9 days ago

                                          @Mauritio Thanks 🙏

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