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    • ErikaE
      Erika @Martiño
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      @Martiño Interesting, I didn't know the nootropic effect was a thing. Definitely excited if it will have some effect of my mood. Thank you for sharing your experience with it.

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        happyhanneke
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        I have the mb from Idealabs called oxidal. I only take one drop every other day.
        I hear you shouldnt take it with coffee. Yet there's caffeine in the bottle.
        How does that work? I have put it in my coffee so I'm wondering if I shouldnt

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        • jamezb46J
          jamezb46 @CO3
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          @CO3 Do you have any actual evidence that 7mg (likely 0.1 mg/kg) is "high dose"? It's used at 15-60 mg per diem for all sorts of mental health disorders and was used at doses far beyond that in world war I for months.

          In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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          • jamezb46J
            jamezb46 @CO3
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            @CO3 Lactoferrin probably

            In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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              jamezb46 @happyhanneke
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              @happyhanneke It potentiates the effect of the caffeine meaning any caffeine co-adminstered with the MB makes the effect of the caffeine as if you had taken approx a 10x dose of caffeine. So, if you take MB with 10 mg caffeine, you get an effect from the caffeine as if you had taken 100mg caffeine.

              In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                alfredoolivas @jamezb46
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                @jamezb46 That is not true, I am pretty sure that idea was conjecture, spread by Haidut back in the day. I have had 600mg of caffeine and 10-15mg caffeine on the same day, and no, it felt like 600mg of caffeine not 6000mg.

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                  jamezb46 @alfredoolivas
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                  @alfredoolivas yes that’s where I got the idea. But maybe it’s true at low doses and not high. In other words maybe the potentiation is 10x at very low doses of caffeine like 1 mg but approaches 1x as the amount increases toward some value like maybe 10mg caffeine.

                  In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                    A Former User @Tahodama
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                    afaicr (as far as I can recall) 5mg MB 3x a day is the safu dose for self-treating various issues. it's interesting because 5mg 3x a day is the safe DHEA dose too

                    peat is more conservative and iirc recommended like 70mcg as a safe dose. The quote from him says to take it in similar doses as thyroid hormone.

                    . for general wellness (a supplement you take for health benefits that you don't really obliquely notice acute effects from), something like 0.5mg a day is probably totally fine. don't take it with iron rich foods or vitamin E

                    I took like 100-150mg a day for like 2 weeks during wuflu. I can't say if it really helped. I have a suspicion it caused or contributed to what I think is iron lipofuscin on my finger that gradually disappeared since. I was also on a whack of cyproheptadine so that would have mitigated any potential excess serotonin effects.

                    the first time I ever took MB at like a 1mg dose I got this strange and not totally unpleasant sensation that my vision was widening and getting better.

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                    • jamezb46J
                      jamezb46 @A Former User
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                      @sushi_is_cringe

                      Yes, the 5 mg, 3x per day sounds right. 15 mg/day is where some of the clinical trials start with mental illness sufferers like depression.

                      In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                      • alfredoolivasA
                        alfredoolivas @jamezb46
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                        @jamezb46 Haidut says a lot of stuff man... here is a clip of him saying a few mgs of exemestane, allows him to drink 2 litres of Vodka in a single night. In most countries that is equivalent to 67 shots of vodka...
                        Youtube Video – [1:17:50..]

                        I wouldn't take his words as gospel.

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