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Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. An obese, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside)

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    sharko @Insomniac
    last edited by Nov 23, 2024, 1:49 PM

    @Insomniac

    I know what it's like to be on drugs like Ritalin for example. It is possible to function as an emotionless superman even with a body that is already half crumbled from the inside, any problem or pain does not exist at all - until the last moment. For me it was combined with extreme chronic stress as a result of hard work with the brain and a very bad lifestyle and when I threw away the pills, I found half a body that needed to be restored to health with the help of the knowledge of the amazing Ray Peat.

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      Insomniac @sharko
      last edited by Nov 23, 2024, 2:07 PM

      @sharko Ray's ideas shook me enough to review everything I believed and overall they were very helpful but not always.

      I'm glad you've healed and no longer depend on so many chemicals.

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        Corngold @Hearthfire
        last edited by Nov 23, 2024, 2:55 PM

        @Hearthfire I think people tolerate alcohol. It's not essential. Not a fan of it at all, it's a solvent.

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          sharko @Insomniac
          last edited by sharko Nov 23, 2024, 4:23 PM Nov 23, 2024, 3:37 PM

          @Insomniac said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. An obese, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

          @sharko Ray's ideas shook me enough to review everything I believed and overall they were very helpful but not always.

          I'm glad you've healed and no longer depend on so many chemicals.

          thanks! I did not implement changes according to Ray's ideas, I used them as well as the research of other forum members (RPF) to complete my own research and insights. Most of Ray's information is correct, but it is not presented in the form of a guide so most people make a lot of nonsense.

          Regarding the reanalysis of our beliefs - totally, today I am a strange bird in my environment, I dare to question the lie of reality. And no one is even interested in hearing about another possibility, even if it contains evidence that cannot be ignored.

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            A Former User
            last edited by Mar 9, 2025, 11:34 PM

            Well, Trump is in the Illuminati (like me), and we have special health secrets that make us a lot healthier than the plebs.

            If you followed his same diet, you wouldn't get the same results for that reason.

            It is what it is.

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              bot-mod @A Former User
              last edited by Mar 10, 2025, 12:04 AM

              @JamesGatz said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. An obese, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

              we have special health secrets that make us a lot healthier

              It shows.

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                Luke
                last edited by Mar 10, 2025, 6:21 AM

                @JamesGatz
                The biggest comeback since Jesus!

                I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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                  Cicero
                  last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 5:58 AM

                  This is inspiring to think about.

                  You want to be wealthy, and be the boss, so you can delegate overly stressful tasks, have the best healthcare and quality food...

                  And consider how he is able to speak his mind, and be who he is. It seems very health promoting--he's got a good vibe in that way. He expresses himself. Most people do not express themselves like that. Being big and rich lets you be more self indulgent, less neurotic. Not being micromanaged by the people around you.

                  We probably have a lot to learn from him.

                  Also, I'm pretty sure he has some kind of brand deal with McDonald's, so I would take that article with a grain of salt. I'm sure he eats it (for photo ops), but every day? I seriously doubt it.

                  I recall CNN reporting ~5-6 years ago that he was on the "steak and ice cream" diet. And they were talking about that like it was such a bad thing.

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                    Cicero @A Former User
                    last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 6:06 AM

                    Where'd he go??

                    James Gatz, come back, homie! Peatworld needs you!

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                      Luke @Luke
                      last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 7:00 AM

                      @Luke said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. An obese, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                      @JamesGatz
                      The biggest comeback since Jesus!

                      I guess the post was slightly premature.

                      I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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                        Norwegian Mugabe
                        last edited by Norwegian Mugabe Mar 16, 2025, 5:50 PM Mar 16, 2025, 5:49 PM

                        Donald Trump graduated first in his class in Finance from an Ivy League institution. He must have an IQ over 145, he demonstrates exceptional intelligence, even if he is not traditionally considered an intellectual.

                        Good times often lead to good health, and good health is the greatest human experience. Trump has enjoyed a largely positive trajectory throughout his life, which suggests a remarkable alignment of circumstances. He was chosen by God, given the extraordinary nature of his life. His vitality and success may be attributed, in part, to his strong Aryan genetic heritage, which reflects resilience and vigor.

                        Trump appears to live life with enthusiasm and purpose. He is a man on a mission, abstaining from alcohol and maintaining a balanced lifestyle. He has built a large family, with many children and grandchildren, and has avoided overexerting his body with excessive physical training. Instead, he spends time outdoors, golfing—a sport he both enjoys and excels at. This routine likely contributes to his steady stress levels, with the exception of the period when he faced near-bankruptcy.

                        I recall reading Ray Peat's essay "Intelligence and Metabolism," where he highlighted Bertrand Russell's ability to embrace new interests and relationships well into old age as a sign of robust health and a nurturing upbringing. There are striking parallels to Trump, who, in his later years, married a youthful and beautiful woman and embarked on a presidential campaign. This decision reflects a childlike curiosity and optimism about the future, as well as a life-affirming worldview.

                        Einstein once said, "God does not play dice with the universe." Trump's exceptional health and vitality at this stage of his life are not mere coincidences but part of a larger, purposeful design.

                        Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                        Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                          Rah1woot @Norwegian Mugabe
                          last edited by Rah1woot Mar 16, 2025, 9:26 PM Mar 16, 2025, 9:25 PM

                          @Norwegian-Mugabe Einstein was arguing against the Copenhagen interpretation here, working to develop Bohmian Mechanics as a derivative of Pilot Wave Theory. Suggesting instead that it is reflecting Trump as a Holy Savior of America is exactly the kind of mystical obscurantism that works to actually further develop America's H1B fascism: e.g., see the rapid rise in migration to the UK right after the conservative Brexit program, on the order of 4x, in spite of their proclamations against migration while running. Money talks.

                          One can't eat The Leader's supposed Alignment with God, nor sleep underneath the roof of His Aryan Heritage.

                          Without materialist analysis, all one has is emotional hysteria.

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                            bot-mod @Rah1woot
                            last edited by Mar 16, 2025, 9:33 PM

                            @Rah1woot said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. An obese, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                            materialist analysis

                            of

                            emotional hysteria

                            Sure would be handy.

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                              A Former User @Norwegian Mugabe
                              last edited by A Former User Mar 16, 2025, 10:51 PM Mar 16, 2025, 10:33 PM

                              @Norwegian-Mugabe You've made some good points about good fortune.

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                                Corngold @Rah1woot
                                last edited by Mar 16, 2025, 11:51 PM

                                @Rah1woot said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. An obese, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                                Einstein

                                There's a book 100 Authors Against Einstein which is, as described, letters from 100 scientists/professors mostly German and German Jews who had big issues with General and Special relativity. The short is it was a speculative ideology or framework being pushed through dogmatically without criticism. Very interesting story, involves politics, race, religion, money, usual suspects. Modern science / Western Civilization is still suffering the consequences of "relativity" if you ask me.

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                                  Corngold @Norwegian Mugabe
                                  last edited by Mar 16, 2025, 11:59 PM

                                  @Norwegian-Mugabe said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. An obese, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                                  where he highlighted Bertrand Russell's ability to embrace new interests and relationships well into old age as a sign of robust health and a nurturing upbringing. There are striking parallels to Trump, who, in his later years, married a youthful and beautiful woman and embarked on a presidential campaign.

                                  Maybe Russell was bright and vital, but he was seriously shortsighted. Wittgenstein is a far more vital character in my opinion. Worked in a hospital; wrote some of his works in a hut in Norway; designed a house in Vienna; stood his ground at Cambridge, briefly in WWI too. He was wealthy, but I feel his creative output and life experience is somewhat genuine at least from my hopeful view of recorded history. Trump married three times (?) to vapid super-models. He's a billionaire obviously very securely in the Epstein club. No high intelligence on display - and I used to think he was going to help America.

                                  Like that Gatz fellow said, Trump, Kissinger, and celebrities surely can get piles of miracle drugs and life-extension therapy. What even is the discussion? Billionaires aren't going to help real people.

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                                    Norwegian Mugabe @Corngold
                                    last edited by Mar 17, 2025, 3:31 PM

                                    @Corngold Russell did nothing of value. He still lived a Peaty life and he seems to have enjoyed himself and his friends wives. The best thinker of the 20th century was Heidegger.

                                    There is no point in only analyzing the world from a materialistic point of view, as there is more to this world than material. Anyhow, this is not what this thread is about. Kilgore is correct, Trump has superior Aryan genes. Clean bloodline.

                                    Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                                    Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                                      Rah1woot @Norwegian Mugabe
                                      last edited by Rah1woot Mar 17, 2025, 10:06 PM Mar 17, 2025, 9:50 PM

                                      @Norwegian-Mugabe

                                      There is no point in only analyzing the world from a materialistic point of view, as there is more to this world than material.

                                      Then you must discard Peating: it's the virtues of soybean oil and running in circles that "go beyond the material". India too is highly fixated on race background and secret super-material inner purity, and it is a dump for that reason.

                                      “Lysenko represents the truly materialist scientific methodology. Western genetics represents the rationalist reductionist view of reality. This is why they had to remove him.” -- Ray Peat

                                      https://bioenergetic.life/clips/3aec8?t=5347&c=100

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                                        Corngold @Rah1woot
                                        last edited by Mar 17, 2025, 10:23 PM

                                        @Rah1woot said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. An obese, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                                        then you must discard Peating: it's the virtues of soybean oil and running in circles that "go beyond the material". India too is highly fixated on race background and secret super-material inner purity, and it is a dump for that reason.

                                        “Lysenko represents the truly materialist scientific methodology. Western genetics represents the rationalist reductionist view of reality. This is why they had to remove him.” -- Ray Peat

                                        Yep. We think mind and environment can overcome genetics (with the help of pharmaceuticals). Or, conversely, we think genetics determines everything and work within these imposed limitations (using gene therapies and pharmaceuticals).

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                                          Corngold @Norwegian Mugabe
                                          last edited by Mar 17, 2025, 10:34 PM

                                          @Norwegian-Mugabe said in Donald Trump defies the laws of aging. An obese, garbage food eating insomniac conquered the world at 78 (politics aside):

                                          Russell did nothing of value. He still lived a Peaty life and he seems to have enjoyed himself and his friends wives. The best thinker of the 20th century was Heidegger.

                                          There is no point in only analyzing the world from a materialistic point of view, as there is more to this world than material. Anyhow, this is not what this thread is about. Kilgore is correct, Trump has superior Aryan genes. Clean bloodline.

                                          I'm going to discard this sentiment. Don't care for Russell, but cheating isn't virtuous. Heidegger I think still pales in comparison to Wittgenstein. A lot of "serious" analytical types write off Ludwig for obvious reasons. Yet countless artists and musicians point back to his work.

                                          You could call this serotonergic / psychological escapism. But, on the other hand, it shows language as the major cucking of mankind and thought. Humanity is about humanity in the literal sense of the word "about." But language is not about language. We have to understand that people are using language and thought, and that is what is shaping language and thought, which makes language "about" language. In other words, Heidegger is writing for a particular time and place. He should be read more like a novel or a painting. Germany became (or were always) incredibly autistic and detached. Trump is basically a clown.

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