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Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?

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    bot-mod @herenow
    last edited by Mar 19, 2025, 12:40 AM

    I'm not talking about synthesis. Only that if you're not cooking ATP then the golden goose isn't much use. There is crosstalk between those systems, but still. If you're metabolically well, eating plenty of sat lipids and the other goods, testosterone ought to be where it needs to be.

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              jamezb46 @Alomongerpete
              last edited by Mar 19, 2025, 2:18 AM

              @Alomongerpete Obviously

              In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                Peatful @wester130
                last edited by Mar 19, 2025, 12:20 PM

                @wester130 said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                His love of painting, art and poetry

                His recommendation of progesterone

                A preference for an introspective, reflective thoughtful life

                Your title question is about what he believed
                But
                Your text above is about who he was
                So im unsure of what you are asking

                I comment to point out
                Have you seen his subjects of a majority of his artwork?
                Naked women

                He was a man who found beauty in women

                Extremely “androgenic” although nothing to do with mass or hair etc

                The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                SD

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                  Crypt Keeper
                  last edited by Mar 19, 2025, 1:26 PM

                  Well I guess Jacob was preferred by God to Esau. So there's that.

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                    alfredoolivas @jamezb46
                    last edited by Mar 19, 2025, 5:28 PM

                    @jamezb46 @Alomongerpete
                    The effect on libido isn't clear.

                    Progesterone therapy in men (transgender women), does not significantly effect, testosterone, libido and weight

                    Does male sexual behavior require progesterone?

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                      herenow
                      last edited by herenow Mar 19, 2025, 6:52 PM Mar 19, 2025, 6:51 PM

                      I envisioned Peat as a mythical autistic hermit. I kind of Yoda

                      I found out he was married for decades when he died and the image shattered. Still hard to imagine

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                        Corngold @herenow
                        last edited by Mar 19, 2025, 10:51 PM

                        @Dedeluded said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                        I found out he was married for decades when he died and the image shattered. Still hard to imagine

                        Interesting... pretty sure if you listen to his radio shows someone asked if he was married and he said no. Maybe he just didn't want to reveal too much to complete strangers?

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                          herenow @Corngold
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                          @Corngold said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                          @Dedeluded said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                          I found out he was married for decades when he died and the image shattered. Still hard to imagine

                          Interesting... pretty sure if you listen to his radio shows someone asked if he was married and he said no. Maybe he just didn't want to reveal too much to complete strangers?

                          I assume to protect his wife

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                            Rah1woot @herenow
                            last edited by Rah1woot Mar 20, 2025, 1:33 PM Mar 20, 2025, 1:33 PM

                            @Dedeluded Per my memory of the interviews...

                            Ray didn't like the concept of marriage, as a form of authoritarian ownership. He'd been with a woman together for many decades but I'm not sure to what extent it was a marriage, or something they thought of as such.

                            In another interview, Ray was asked what to do if a spouse died. After some grieving he said that one had to go "out to find a suitable replacement", which earned some laughs from the interviewers.

                            I tend to think he was a stone-cold guy who didn't feel the need to establish a legalized exclusivity of his woman. And not really putting her on a pedestal as The One and Only (if she were to die) at the same time.

                            I suppose it makes sense in the grander view of metabolism. Grieving for inappropriately long is almost a form of constipation.

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                              herenow @Rah1woot
                              last edited by herenow Mar 21, 2025, 11:48 AM Mar 20, 2025, 1:41 PM

                              That's one of the things I liked about him. I didn't want to imagine him drinking a beer and pushing a mower across a lawn or doing "normal" stuff.

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                                Corngold @herenow
                                last edited by Mar 21, 2025, 3:47 PM

                                @heretoday
                                He's right on many things but cringe on others. Surprising he managed mostly independent thought through the liberal / socialist revolution period, but many of those views seem to have stuck with him.

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                                  herenow @Corngold
                                  last edited by herenow Mar 21, 2025, 4:10 PM Mar 21, 2025, 4:06 PM

                                  @Corngold In my mind the weirdness created the context for the possibility of unique and correct knowledge. Odd political, economic and social views fit right in.

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                                    natureman
                                    last edited by Mar 26, 2025, 9:59 PM

                                    Wtf is this thread? Peat once made an infertile woman ovulate by lending her his cardigan. And that's no joke.

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                                      Corngold @natureman
                                      last edited by Mar 27, 2025, 1:12 PM

                                      @natureman Rizzmond Peat

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                                        herenow @natureman
                                        last edited by Apr 11, 2025, 9:27 PM

                                        @natureman said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                                        Peat once made an infertile woman ovulate by lending her his cardigan.

                                        that's fine but giving away clothing isn't the most macho thing I've ever heard.

                                        Is the rest of the story that she gave birth to several science writers?

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                                          A Former User @wester130
                                          last edited by A Former User Apr 12, 2025, 8:09 AM Apr 12, 2025, 6:52 AM

                                          @wester130 said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                                          His love of painting, art and poetry

                                          His recommendation of progesterone

                                          A preference for an introspective, reflective thoughtful life

                                          I think he mentioned fertility for men several times, and fertility is one of the most common factors or the most commun factor associated with male, I'm not sure, I think he also mentioned that he often had sex dreams.

                                          If you give credence to theories, Georgie has shared study(s) where progesterone and pregnenolone are most beneficial for male fertility, and that high dose testosterone reduces fertility.

                                          https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/male-fertility-depends-on-intensity-of-sperm-metabolism.32004/

                                          Even if it varies from species to species, the other factors that are commonly associated with males are generally the ability and propensity to compete and fight, fighting physiognomy, and what you have mentionned do not fully prevent that

                                          Also if you look at what is said about animals, for example moose, rams, they don't breed and fight all year round, they do it specifically during the rut at a specific time of the year, so even these two main elements that are associated with males are manifested in specific context

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