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Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?

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    herenow @bot-mod
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      @Dedeluded said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

      downstream

      afik

      It's entirely possible our views are inverted.

      @ThinPicking said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

      What if your condition has a reference range, and what if indication is all around and behind you.

      @Dedeluded said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

      that reflects his mindset as the poster suggested

      The poster asked a question. He's on a journey or something.

      @wester130 said in The ‘Fall’ of man from a new perspective.:

      what is a "man"?

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          @Dedeluded said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

          t4 converts to t3. That would be downstream no?

          @Dedeluded said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

          Thyroid is farther downstream than testosterone in the sense that it's the final active form

          I'm a little confused. But that's ok.

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          @Dedeluded said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

          manly stuff

          Apparently he doesn't know what a "man" is.

          @Dedeluded said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

          Being cryptic doesn't help anyone in any way.

          Welcome to earth. If you know the way we're all ears.

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                bot-mod @herenow
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                @Dedeluded said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                Don't be confused

                t3 is downstream of t4

                Pregnenolone is not downstream bc it's the first

                Testosterone continues converting but is downstream of pregnenolone.

                Ok but you asked if thyroid and preg are cop outs in comparison to testosterone. I described them further upstream and more fundamental. You're free to differ.

                On earth you work with actual information to reach rational conclusions. We should all aspire to get there

                I'll stick with my original answer to OPs question. But thank you for your thoughts on testosterone recommendations and what constitutes manly things.

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                  bot-mod @herenow
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                  I would make the case for a sense of humour. Definite sarcasm as you didn't ask.

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                      bot-mod @herenow
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                      I'm not talking about synthesis. Only that if you're not cooking ATP then the golden goose isn't much use. There is crosstalk between those systems, but still. If you're metabolically well, eating plenty of sat lipids and the other goods, testosterone ought to be where it needs to be.

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                                jamezb46 @Alomongerpete
                                last edited by Mar 19, 2025, 2:18 AM

                                @Alomongerpete Obviously

                                In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                                  Peatful @wester130
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                                  @wester130 said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                                  His love of painting, art and poetry

                                  His recommendation of progesterone

                                  A preference for an introspective, reflective thoughtful life

                                  Your title question is about what he believed
                                  But
                                  Your text above is about who he was
                                  So im unsure of what you are asking

                                  I comment to point out
                                  Have you seen his subjects of a majority of his artwork?
                                  Naked women

                                  He was a man who found beauty in women

                                  Extremely “androgenic” although nothing to do with mass or hair etc

                                  The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                  SD

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                                    Crypt Keeper
                                    last edited by Mar 19, 2025, 1:26 PM

                                    Well I guess Jacob was preferred by God to Esau. So there's that.

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                                      alfredoolivas @jamezb46
                                      last edited by Mar 19, 2025, 5:28 PM

                                      @jamezb46 @Alomongerpete
                                      The effect on libido isn't clear.

                                      Progesterone therapy in men (transgender women), does not significantly effect, testosterone, libido and weight

                                      Does male sexual behavior require progesterone?

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                                        herenow
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                                        I envisioned Peat as a mythical autistic hermit. I kind of Yoda

                                        I found out he was married for decades when he died and the image shattered. Still hard to imagine

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                                          Corngold @herenow
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                                          @Dedeluded said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                                          I found out he was married for decades when he died and the image shattered. Still hard to imagine

                                          Interesting... pretty sure if you listen to his radio shows someone asked if he was married and he said no. Maybe he just didn't want to reveal too much to complete strangers?

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