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    Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?

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      bot-mod @herenow
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      @Dedeluded said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

      Don't be confused

      t3 is downstream of t4

      Pregnenolone is not downstream bc it's the first

      Testosterone continues converting but is downstream of pregnenolone.

      Ok but you asked if thyroid and preg are cop outs in comparison to testosterone. I described them further upstream and more fundamental. You're free to differ.

      On earth you work with actual information to reach rational conclusions. We should all aspire to get there

      I'll stick with my original answer to OPs question. But thank you for your thoughts on testosterone recommendations and what constitutes manly things.

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        bot-mod @herenow
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        I would make the case for a sense of humour. Definite sarcasm as you didn't ask.

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            bot-mod @herenow
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            I'm not talking about synthesis. Only that if you're not cooking ATP then the golden goose isn't much use. There is crosstalk between those systems, but still. If you're metabolically well, eating plenty of sat lipids and the other goods, testosterone ought to be where it needs to be.

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                      jamezb46 @Alomongerpete
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                      @Alomongerpete Obviously

                      In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                        Peatful @wester130
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                        @wester130 said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                        His love of painting, art and poetry

                        His recommendation of progesterone

                        A preference for an introspective, reflective thoughtful life

                        Your title question is about what he believed
                        But
                        Your text above is about who he was
                        So im unsure of what you are asking

                        I comment to point out
                        Have you seen his subjects of a majority of his artwork?
                        Naked women

                        He was a man who found beauty in women

                        Extremely “androgenic” although nothing to do with mass or hair etc

                        The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                        SD

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                          Crypt Keeper
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                          Well I guess Jacob was preferred by God to Esau. So there's that.

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                            alfredoolivas @jamezb46
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                            @jamezb46 @Alomongerpete
                            The effect on libido isn't clear.

                            Progesterone therapy in men (transgender women), does not significantly effect, testosterone, libido and weight

                            Does male sexual behavior require progesterone?

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                              herenow
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                              I envisioned Peat as a mythical autistic hermit. I kind of Yoda

                              I found out he was married for decades when he died and the image shattered. Still hard to imagine

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                                Corngold @herenow
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                                @Dedeluded said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                                I found out he was married for decades when he died and the image shattered. Still hard to imagine

                                Interesting... pretty sure if you listen to his radio shows someone asked if he was married and he said no. Maybe he just didn't want to reveal too much to complete strangers?

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                                  herenow @Corngold
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                                  @Corngold said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                                  @Dedeluded said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:

                                  I found out he was married for decades when he died and the image shattered. Still hard to imagine

                                  Interesting... pretty sure if you listen to his radio shows someone asked if he was married and he said no. Maybe he just didn't want to reveal too much to complete strangers?

                                  I assume to protect his wife

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                                    Rah1woot @herenow
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                                    @Dedeluded Per my memory of the interviews...

                                    Ray didn't like the concept of marriage, as a form of authoritarian ownership. He'd been with a woman together for many decades but I'm not sure to what extent it was a marriage, or something they thought of as such.

                                    In another interview, Ray was asked what to do if a spouse died. After some grieving he said that one had to go "out to find a suitable replacement", which earned some laughs from the interviewers.

                                    I tend to think he was a stone-cold guy who didn't feel the need to establish a legalized exclusivity of his woman. And not really putting her on a pedestal as The One and Only (if she were to die) at the same time.

                                    I suppose it makes sense in the grander view of metabolism. Grieving for inappropriately long is almost a form of constipation.

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                                      herenow @Rah1woot
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                                      That's one of the things I liked about him. I didn't want to imagine him drinking a beer and pushing a mower across a lawn or doing "normal" stuff.

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                                        Corngold @herenow
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                                        @heretoday
                                        He's right on many things but cringe on others. Surprising he managed mostly independent thought through the liberal / socialist revolution period, but many of those views seem to have stuck with him.

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                                          herenow @Corngold
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                                          @Corngold In my mind the weirdness created the context for the possibility of unique and correct knowledge. Odd political, economic and social views fit right in.

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                                            natureman
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                                            Wtf is this thread? Peat once made an infertile woman ovulate by lending her his cardigan. And that's no joke.

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