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    what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?

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      wester130 @risingfire
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      "it’s bcus of insulin spikes. Insulin spikes = hyper insulinemia = low SHBG = hyperandrogenism = excess nose, ear, hair growth."

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        wester130 @wester130
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        this mentions shbg, insulin and pcos

        https://doctorherdmanclinic.com/resources/articles/womens-health/polycystic-ovary-syndrome-stinging-nettle/

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              risingfire @wester130
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              @wester130 as I stated before, I don't think male pcos is characterized by high androgens including "excess dht." I've seen females with pcos. They tend to have high estrogen, blood sugar and cortisol. Most likely similar with males.

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                wester130 @risingfire
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                it's neither

                it's SHBG we want to investigate

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                  risingfire @wester130
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                  @wester130 I thought Ray said SHBG should be higher. Don't quote me on that. Are you under the impression that it's lower and it's causing a greater concentration of nose and ear hair?

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                    wester130 @risingfire
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                    I am under the impression something is causing hyperandrogenism, and it's likely related to SHBG

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                      risingfire @wester130
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                      @wester130 have you gotten a blood test recently?

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                        wester130 @risingfire
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                        @risingfire they won't test for things like FSH, LH, T and DHT and shbg

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                          risingfire @wester130
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                          @wester130 where do you live?

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                            wester130 @risingfire
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                            @risingfire uk

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                              risingfire @wester130
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                              @wester130 In the US you can take a lot of these tests without doctors approval. Not sure about UK

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