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what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?

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    wester130 @wester130
    last edited by Mar 16, 2025, 1:39 PM

    this mentions shbg, insulin and pcos

    https://doctorherdmanclinic.com/resources/articles/womens-health/polycystic-ovary-syndrome-stinging-nettle/

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          risingfire @wester130
          last edited by Mar 17, 2025, 5:35 PM

          @wester130 as I stated before, I don't think male pcos is characterized by high androgens including "excess dht." I've seen females with pcos. They tend to have high estrogen, blood sugar and cortisol. Most likely similar with males.

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            wester130 @risingfire
            last edited by Mar 17, 2025, 10:50 PM

            @risingfire

            it's neither

            it's SHBG we want to investigate

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              risingfire @wester130
              last edited by Mar 18, 2025, 2:29 PM

              @wester130 I thought Ray said SHBG should be higher. Don't quote me on that. Are you under the impression that it's lower and it's causing a greater concentration of nose and ear hair?

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                wester130 @risingfire
                last edited by Mar 18, 2025, 3:46 PM

                @risingfire

                I am under the impression something is causing hyperandrogenism, and it's likely related to SHBG

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                  risingfire @wester130
                  last edited by Mar 18, 2025, 6:27 PM

                  @wester130 have you gotten a blood test recently?

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                    wester130 @risingfire
                    last edited by Mar 18, 2025, 7:08 PM

                    @risingfire they won't test for things like FSH, LH, T and DHT and shbg

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                      risingfire @wester130
                      last edited by Mar 18, 2025, 8:01 PM

                      @wester130 where do you live?

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                        wester130 @risingfire
                        last edited by Mar 18, 2025, 10:55 PM

                        @risingfire uk

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                          risingfire @wester130
                          last edited by Mar 19, 2025, 1:37 PM

                          @wester130 In the US you can take a lot of these tests without doctors approval. Not sure about UK

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